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Plane leaving North Las Vegas crashes in California killing 2
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According to ADS-B data, it looks like N8375W landed on runway 20 at EED around 0338z. The timeline in the article says the fire department wasn’t called until 0443z, and it was near enough to the airport to be called to an address on the grounds. ADS-B really doesn’t have coverage all the way to the ground at EED.
Either it landed, waited an hour, and crashed during the takeoff process, or something happened around the first landing and wasn’t noticed until an hour later.
Either way:
KEED 140256Z AUTO 18010KT 10SM CLR 43/16 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP039 T04280156 53004
KEED 140356Z AUTO 21011KT 10SM CLR 41/14 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP037 T04110139
KEED 140456Z AUTO 23009KT 10SM CLR 39/13 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP039 T03940133
Hot. Density altitude above 4000’. There was no other significant weather in the vicinity. Sunset would have been at 0252z, civil twilight until 0322z.
Not speculating cause, just providing environmental info.
Either it landed, waited an hour, and crashed during the takeoff process, or something happened around the first landing and wasn’t noticed until an hour later.
Either way:
KEED 140256Z AUTO 18010KT 10SM CLR 43/16 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP039 T04280156 53004
KEED 140356Z AUTO 21011KT 10SM CLR 41/14 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP037 T04110139
KEED 140456Z AUTO 23009KT 10SM CLR 39/13 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP039 T03940133
Hot. Density altitude above 4000’. There was no other significant weather in the vicinity. Sunset would have been at 0252z, civil twilight until 0322z.
Not speculating cause, just providing environmental info.
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Last documented fatal at EED was 2008. Prior to that 2003, then 1987.
Oh, my mistake, I misread it. I thought this happened AT north las vegas (KVGT). Nevermind!
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The headline is a bit ambiguous. “Leaving VGT, crashes in CA.” Somewhere in there “leaving” should have become “left.”
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The NTSB database includes both the departure and destination airports. However, I'm not sure how to determine if the airport has an "inordinate" number of fatalities. One would have to develop criteria to compare to equivalent airports...and that would require some process to determine which are equivalent.
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That's fair! I was mistaken anyways, the accident wasn't at VGT.
But yeah, inordinate is definitely a subjective phrase. I just know that I've seen KVGT pop up in the news enough from accidents that I've memorized the airport symbol even though its 1000 miles away!
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I'd suspect that stuff occurring around Las Vegas tends to make the news more than similar-sized towns....
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Maybe the OP meant "Leaving Las Vegas" as a pop culture reference.?
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I thought "...crashes in CA" kinda gave it away. As far as "pop-culture reference(s)" that would've probably taken 3 to 4 weeks (per Ben Sanderson).
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Interesting results. The NTSB database includes a "Departure City" entry; this could be for any airport serving that city. For January 2008 through December 2023, here are the number of fatal accidents:
Atlanta: 12
Las Vegas: 18
Los Angeles: 6
New York: 6
Seattle: 4
Wichita: 7
Winter Haven: 7
Now, this is based solely on the entry for departure airport...the accident may have occurred enroute, or even at the destination. Still, it is curious....
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Atlanta: 12
Las Vegas: 18
Los Angeles: 6
New York: 6
Seattle: 4
Wichita: 7
Winter Haven: 7
Now, this is based solely on the entry for departure airport...the accident may have occurred enroute, or even at the destination. Still, it is curious....
Ron Wanttaja
Perhaps what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas?
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But . . . did the mishap "happen" in Vegas.
But then you think about the demographic that Las Vegas attracts (myself included, I've visted like 20x in the last 20 years), and it all starts to make sense.
If I had to speculate on the root cause for some of these: the word hangover comes to mind.