PIREP on EAA Airventure Camping?

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by pilotjlr, May 6, 2015.

  1. pilotjlr

    pilotjlr Pre-Flight

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    36
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    james
    Good evening,
    I'm considering flying to EAA Airventure this year (first time) and camping under the airplane for a couple nights.

    For those that have done this before - would you recommend it? How are the facilities? My wife would be coming, and she's more of a nice resort type of person... I'm hoping the showers and things like that are decent and clean?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jay Honeck

    Jay Honeck Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    Messages:
    11,540
    Location:
    Port Aransas, TX
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Jay Honeck
    If you are flying a non-homebuilt, non-vintage aircraft, you will most likely be camping in the North 40. This is where we have camped for many years (even though we now have a homebuilt -- we can't leave our peeps!), and it's a little piece of heaven.

    Picture a few thousand planes, parked wingtip to wingtip. Stand on your wing, and look at them stretch to the horizon, as far as you can see. That kind of heaven!

    Conditions are fairly crude. You can't have a fire, for example. Still, with the North 40 ringed with bars and restaurants, and with dozens of food vendors on the field (including one in the North 40, the last few years), you don't have to cook anything if you don't want to.

    The showers are clean and plentiful, especially for women, who are outnumbered by men 10 to 1. It's still campground showers, though, so tell your wife to get used to it.

    We will be there all week, doing our usual Wednesday night party and having beers and hangar flying most of the week. The best part of the North 40 is to get there after the air show, just as the field reopens, pull your lawn chair up to Rwy 27, and watch arrivals and departures.

    That's the REAL airshow, and we usually have peanuts (really!) and beers while we rate landings and marvel at the cha-cha line of planes.

    Dress appropriately for Wisconsin, which means shorts, sandals, and winter parkas. :lol: The weather can flip back and forth multiple times during the week, so be ready.

    Don't expect to see the whole show in two days. We stay the whole week, and usually miss something.

    This will be our 33rd consecutive Oshkosh fly-in, with luck. You will love it!
     
  3. fiveoboy01

    fiveoboy01 Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2013
    Messages:
    2,318
    Location:
    Madison, WI
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dirty B
    Bikini Bar.
     
  4. jtheune

    jtheune En-Route

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    2,779
    Location:
    Severna Park, MD
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    John T
    Is that the moon? Can't say how many times that question has come up in the N40
     
  5. mkosmo

    mkosmo Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    2,256
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    mkosmo
    While I have a dorm room booked for the trip up there, I may have to come squat in the N40 with you guys! Sounds like a blast.
     
  6. kyleb

    kyleb Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    Messages:
    5,770
    Location:
    Marietta, GA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Drake the Outlaw
    Exactly my question the first few times I saw the balloon over the SOS Brothers' tent. Best food near Airventure, cold beer, and yes, bikinis.

    I walk over there once or twice a day from HBC.

    For breakfast, the breakfast subs from the Subway near the conjunction of warbirds, homebuilts, and the North 40 is convenient and tasty.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2015
  7. JB1842

    JB1842 En-Route

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    3,523
    Location:
    Huron, OH
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Josh
    I like when it rains sometimes. Gives me a chance to wipe down the plane and get all the bug spots off without too much elbow grease.
     
  8. jtheune

    jtheune En-Route

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    2,779
    Location:
    Severna Park, MD
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    John T
    I think rain implies a gentle washing of water from the sky. That does not happen at Osh. It is clear or it is gully washing torrential downpours. None of this sissy gentle rain nonsense
     
  9. N801BH

    N801BH Touchdown! Greaser! Gone West

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    17,188
    Location:
    Jackson Hole Wy
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FBH
    Ha......

    I remember "sloshkosh"...:yes::redface:.........
     
  10. weirdjim

    weirdjim Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,171
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA (KGOO)
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    weirdjim
    And if you can afford it, LeSeur's (sp?) Bakery directly out the hole in the north fence and across the street is absolute heaven if you like pastry, good omelets, and the like for breakfast. The little food tent at the south edge of the north 40 isn't bad either.

    Food will be the least of your problems at OSH. Baked skin and thunderstorms rate right up there with the real problems.

    Jim
     
  11. weirdjim

    weirdjim Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,171
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA (KGOO)
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    weirdjim
    Ha .....

    I remember 15-20 years ago giving my forum standing on top of the forum tent that the torrential rain and howling winds took down the night before. That was before they built the new "concrete tents" for the forums.

    Jim
     
  12. N801BH

    N801BH Touchdown! Greaser! Gone West

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    17,188
    Location:
    Jackson Hole Wy
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FBH
    Personally, I can handle rain and sunburns.... It is the potential for hail to beat my plane to death that keeps me awake at night...:(:(:redface:
     
  13. JB1842

    JB1842 En-Route

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    3,523
    Location:
    Huron, OH
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Josh
    Maybe since I live in Wisconsin my version of rain and downpours is different.
     
  14. Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe

    Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2008
    Messages:
    12,925
    Location:
    DXO124009
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Light and Sporty Guy
    1) Someone would have to let me borrow a ladder
    2) I suspect I would go right though the fabric once I got up there. (But I don't really know - has anyone tried it?)
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2015
  15. ytodd

    ytodd Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    347
    Location:
    Peoria, IL.
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    ....
    6am P-51 alarm clock, be prepared.
     
  16. Mike5250

    Mike5250 Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    886
    Location:
    Philadelphia,pa
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Mike5250
    The google map image will give you a good idea of all the planes! Looks like they updated the image while the show was going on. https://www.google.com/maps/search/oshkosh+hotel/@43.990247,-88.5704913,2184m/data=!3m1!1e3


    I'm not much of a camper but will camp in the north 40 every year. If you get parked on the north side of 9/27 the bathrooms and showers aren't quite as nice but you are closer to the Hilton and some of the restaurants are within an easy walk. There is also a goodwill that is useful for getting stuff that won't fit in the plane (bikes, chairs, etc). If you get there earlier in the week you will be parking closer to the show entrance, nicer showers, etc.

    Where are you flying in from?
     
  17. JB1842

    JB1842 En-Route

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    3,523
    Location:
    Huron, OH
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Josh
    You're talking like that is a bad thing.
     
  18. ytodd

    ytodd Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    347
    Location:
    Peoria, IL.
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    ....
    Not at all, I set my alarm for 5:55 so I could get out of the tent and watch :yes:
     
  19. fiveoboy01

    fiveoboy01 Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2013
    Messages:
    2,318
    Location:
    Madison, WI
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dirty B
    Got caught/soaked in that pop-up monsoon last year:)
     
  20. paflyer

    paflyer Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2010
    Messages:
    7,152
    Location:
    PA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    PAFlyer
    You're either blessed or screwed!
     
  21. Hank S

    Hank S En-Route

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    4,696
    Location:
    Eclectic, AL
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Hank
    So what is the definition of "Vintage" when it comes to Osh & camping? It seems a highly variable word anyway.
     
  22. Jay Honeck

    Jay Honeck Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    Messages:
    11,540
    Location:
    Port Aransas, TX
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Jay Honeck
    The official EAA definition of vintage is bogus, IMHO. Letting currently produced (albeit old) aircraft park in Vintage ruins it for me.

    Sorry, but you guys parking your Cherokees next to Stagger wings and Travel airs in Vintage are embarrassing yourselves. Park out in the North 40 with the rest of us, and leave Vintage for the cool old Howards and Culvers, please.
     
  23. N801BH

    N801BH Touchdown! Greaser! Gone West

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    17,188
    Location:
    Jackson Hole Wy
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FBH

    Agreed.... Ruins the experience for me too...:(
     
  24. Hank S

    Hank S En-Route

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    4,696
    Location:
    Eclectic, AL
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Hank
    I still don't know the official EAA definition of 'vintage,' other than that some people don't like it.

    "You can please all of the people some of the time, or you can please some of the people all of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time."
     
  25. Jay Honeck

    Jay Honeck Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    Messages:
    11,540
    Location:
    Port Aransas, TX
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Jay Honeck
    So, go to EAA.org. They will have the official definition.
     
  26. weirdjim

    weirdjim Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,171
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA (KGOO)
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    weirdjim
    There are three divisions of "vintage" within EAA ...

    Antique: 17 Dec '03 through 31 Aug '45

    Classic: 1 Sep '45 through 31 Dec '55

    Contemporary: 1 Jan '56 through 31 Dec '70
    Thanks,

    Jim
     
  27. Badger

    Badger Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2011
    Messages:
    2,137
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Badger
  28. pilotjlr

    pilotjlr Pre-Flight

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    36
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    james
    Thanks for everyone's feedback! It sounds awesome, and we're probably going to do it.

    I'm in Chicago, so it should be a really short flight.

    One other question - what do people do about charging tablets, cameras, etc? Just bring a lot of battery packs? In the photos I've seen, it looks like the electrical hookups are for the RV section, not the airplanes.
     
  29. N801BH

    N801BH Touchdown! Greaser! Gone West

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Messages:
    17,188
    Location:
    Jackson Hole Wy
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FBH
    There are charging stations set up outside of most showers...... You plug in,, get a shower and you are good to go for another day......

    Works real well..
     
  30. cgrab

    cgrab Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    2,150
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    cgrab
    Yes, I would recommend it. I camped in the vintage area last year and had a spot next to the road. It was a short walk to the toilet but a long walk to the showers. I had a 10x10 tent I could stand up in to change clothes and a 10 x 10 screened shelter for my cooking. I cooked eggs and bacon every morning and cooked several things for dinner. I ate lunch at the show.
    I had an air mattress to sleep on with regular sheets but one night I did get into my sleeping bag.
    I arrived Friday and left Thursday morning. I would recomend arrivng Saturday and touring the EAA museum on Sunday. The night show on Wednesday is worth staying for.
     
  31. cgrab

    cgrab Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    2,150
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    cgrab

    I had a metal security box that I drilled a hole in and fed a plug through. On the inside I mounted a power strip. I plugged my 2 phones, tablet, and radio into the power strip and each night I plugged the box into an outlet behind the concession stand and locked it with a bicycle chain to the building.
     
  32. MSPAviator

    MSPAviator Cleared for Takeoff

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2010
    Messages:
    1,064
    Location:
    Minneapolis, MN
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    MSPAviator
    There are electrical outlets at the Green and Red shower buildings in the North 40. I recommend you bring your own power strip for extra outlets. At any given time there will be thousands of dollars worth of iPads and other devices charging and left unattended and nothing in my 4 years of experience has ever happened to anyone's stuff.

    What I did last year was I got a set of portable solar panels that can charge USB devices. Working in conjunction with a USB battery pack I was able to keep my phone charged up the entire time.

    This is the solar panel I got: http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-Port-Charger-PowerIQ-Technology/dp/B00E3OL5U8
     
  33. txflyer

    txflyer En-Route

    Joined:
    May 3, 2013
    Messages:
    4,509
    Location:
    Wild Blue Yonder
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Fly it like you STOL it ♦



    I think you said the magic word 'wife' and that changes everything sometimes ... :rolleyes:

    But everybody should camp at OSH at least once. It's what you do. Especially your first trip. Two nights you should be fine, any longer depends on how good of a camper you are.

    Good luck and hope we'll see you there. We plan to go back on our second trip this year.
     
  34. steingar

    steingar Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    27,766
    Location:
    Land of Savages
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    steingar
    I liked camping in the vintage but can't really do so. I depend on the venues off the airport for most dinners (can't carry that big a stove or that much food). They're a rather long way from vintage. Besides, all the best parties are in the North 40.
     
  35. Dennis McKim

    Dennis McKim Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2015
    Messages:
    687
    Location:
    Western Colorado
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dennis McKim
    General question: is there a limit on how long ahead of time one can fly in and begin camping in the North 40? Zero days? One day? One week?
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2015
  36. denverpilot

    denverpilot Tied Down PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    54,570
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    DenverPilot

    Agreed. And if someone from the area looks at a radar picture and says, "that thing is coming to kick our ass", believe them. It's time to get back to camp, bring everything inside the tent, tie down anything loose, and prepare for rain and wind that'll probably last all night. (Thanks Kent. Ha.)

    If you are used to dry isolated thunderstorms like we see out West here, you're in for a "treat" once the Wisconsin style ones start up. Line after line after line after line of rain bands that'll last far into the night. They don't dry up and dissipate after sunset.
     
  37. flyingron

    flyingron Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2007
    Messages:
    19,843
    Location:
    Catawba, NC
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FlyingRon
    We actually have a special place reserved for those who can show their aircraft was built before December 17, 1903. The Smithsonian would also like to speak with them.
     
  38. weirdjim

    weirdjim Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,171
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA (KGOO)
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    weirdjim
    There are dozens of aircraft that were built and flew before 17 Dec '03. Montgomery in San Diego, Lilienthal in Germany, Montgolfier in France, and they were all aircraft. Not airplanes.

    Jim
     
  39. flyingron

    flyingron Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2007
    Messages:
    19,843
    Location:
    Catawba, NC
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FlyingRon
    To my knowledge, none have made it to Oshkosh. As I said, we do have a special place reserved for any of those.
     
  40. weirdjim

    weirdjim Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,171
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA (KGOO)
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    weirdjim
    I'll see if I can find any of the remnants of Lyman Gilmore's steam powered coal fired flash boiler monoplane he claimed to have flown a year before the Wright Brothers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUOe0vdJhA

    Jim