Piper Dakota and Piper 235

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  1. FloridaPilot

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    Florida is really bad when it comes to corrosion. I didn't notice it until people here on POA showed me what to look for. If an airplane has been sitting outside, especially here in Florida. Examine thoroughly and be ready to walk away. I will get a thorough pre buy.
     
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    Depends a lot on your market. Here, the inspection itself is a flat $1400, not including anything that turns up and needs to be fixed as a result. Needless to say, it will vary greatly about that. I've had them go from about $1600 up to over $8000, though that one doesn't really count since I added in several non-mandatory things I wanted to do anyway, and just took advantage of having the airplane already in the shop.

    Barring major issues, figuring <$2000/year is probably reasonable, though you *will* have some that are more.
     
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    Thanks again, that might be a separate thread, maybe I can find out from POA if there are any websites out there you can check for airplanes sold and how much.
     
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    What is the difference in cabin length 1970 to 1973. What about useful load?
     
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    The 235 hp and 180 hp Cherokees got the stretched fuselage for the 1973 model year. It first appeared on the Cherokee Arrow II a year earlier.

    The fuselage was stretched by 5 inches, most of which went to rear seat legroom. The stabilator was also enlarged (plucked from the Cherokee Six parts bin).

    Park a ‘72 Cherokee 235 next to a ‘73 (photos below), you’ll notice the ‘73’s cabin door and front side windows are a couple of inches wider, and the wing appears to be set a little further aft relative to the windshield.

    Gross weight of the ‘73 -235 went up by 100 pounds, 40 pounds of which was offset by increased empty weight. Predictably, the ‘73’s cruise speed and service ceiling went down some.

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    The 150/160 hp Warrior, introduced in 1974, always had the long body. The Cherokee 140, built through 1977, never had the long body.
     
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    @Pilawt As always you are the man!! Thank you!
     
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    Does anyone actually have 1 that has the performance charts, everyone I have seen for the 235F don't.
     
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    Take a look, they should be in there. Haven't seen a POH that didn't.
     
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    Sorry meant to say all I find is “owners handbook” and on several sites they were advertised as POH.
     
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    I think even owner handbook has it in there but might be wrong. I'm looking at an Archer II titiled "Information Manual" and everything a POH has is in there, including performance section.
     
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    I have the one Pilawt gave me PM me an e-mail address and I will send it to you. It's 31 pages and it does have the performance charts you requested.
     
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    When I bought into a PA-28-236 Dakota a few years ago, I went through all of the -235 and -236 accident reports to see what I could learn. One thing I picked up is that there are more fuel starvation incidents with the -235, which I chalk up to them having twice as many tanks. I prefer the Dakota for the fuel system simplicity. Either way, both are great airplanes. I've loved owning a part of a Dakota!
     
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    Premier out of Florida,is doing makeovers of the Dakota model.you get a new aircraft ,at half the cost of what a new Dakota would be ,if piper where to build one today.
     
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    So after all of these years thinking and planning and reading countless: "What airplane for me threads" I believe the Piper 235 or 236 (Depends on price) will be the one I purchase. I have done countless research based on speed, useful load and mission and the piper series will fit me nicely. I wanted to go into a Mooney, (Useful load will suffer) or Bonanza (Not experienced enough). I'm fairly new to flying and I just got my PPL this year. I'm smart enough to realize that I'm going to make mistakes and the Cessna and Piper series are pretty forgiving. I will start there and go to more advanced aircraft in the future.
     
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    Here’s one for the Dakota.
     

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    kbragdon Filing Flight Plan

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    Hey Guys - I'm looking at buying a share in a 1976 Pathfinder - the POH is impossible to find online. Can somebody post a link or send a copy of a Pathfinder POH?

    Thanks!!
     
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