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This was a rather interesting read...

http://time.com/25370/doctor-adhd-does-not-exist/?hpt=hp_t4

Doctor: ADHD Does Not Exist

Dr. Richard Saul

March 14, 2014

Over the course of my career, I have found more than 20 conditions that can lead to symptoms of ADHD, each of which requires its own approach to treatment. Raising a generation of children—and now adults—who can't live without stimulants is no solution.

This Wednesday, an article in the New York Times reported that between 2008 and 2012 the number of adults taking medications for ADHD has increased by 53%, and that in the case of young American adults, it has nearly doubled. While this is a staggering statistic, and points to younger generations becoming frequently reliant on stimulants, frankly, I’m not too surprised. Over the course of my 50-year-long career in behavioral neurology and treating patients with ADHD, it has been in the past decade that I have seen these diagnoses truly skyrocket. Every day my colleagues and I see more and more people coming in claiming they have trouble paying attention at school and at work, and diagnosing themselves with “ADHD.”

And why shouldn’t they?

If someone finds it difficult to pay attention or feels somewhat hyperactive, “Attention-deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder” has those symptoms right there in its name. It’s an easy, catch-all phrase, which saves time for doctors to boot. But can we really lump all these people together? What if there are other things causing people to feel distracted? I don’t deny that we, as a population, are more distracted today than we ever were before. And I don’t deny that some of these patients who are distracted and impulsive need help. But what I do deny is the generally accepted definition of ADHD, which is long overdue for an update. In short, I’ve come to believe based on decades of treating patients that ADHD — as currently defined by the DSM and as it exists in the public imagination — does not exist.

Allow me to explain what I mean.

Ever since 1937, when Dr. Charles Bradley discovered that children who displayed symptoms of attention-deficit hyperactivity responded well to Benzedrine, a stimulant, we have been thinking about this “disorder” in almost the same way. Soon after Bradley’s discovery the medical community began labeling children exhibiting these symptoms as having “minimal brain dysfunction,” or MBD, and treating them with the stimulants Ritalin and Cylert. In the intervening years, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, changed the label numerous times, from “hyperkinetic reaction of childhood” (it wasn’t until 1980 that the DSM-III introduced a classification for adults with the condition), to the current label ADHD. But regardless of the label, we have been giving patients different variants of stimulant medication to cover up the symptoms. You’d think that after decades of advancements in neuroscience, we would shift our thinking.

Today, the fifth edition of the DSM only requires one to fulfill five of eighteen possible symptoms to qualify for an ADHD diagnosis. If you haven’t seen the list yet, look it up. It will probably bother you. How many of us can claim we have difficulty with organization, or a tendency to lose things; that we are frequently forgetful, distracted, or fail to pay close attention to details? Under this subjective criteria, the entire U.S. population could potentially qualify. We’ve all had these moments, and in moderate amounts, it’s a normal part of the human condition.

However, there are some instances in which attention symptoms are severe enough that patients truly need help. Over the course of my career, I have found more than 20 conditions that can lead to symptoms of ADHD, each of which requires its own approach to treatment. Among these are sleep disorders, undiagnosed vision and hearing problems, substance abuse (marijuana and alcohol in particular), iron deficiency, allergies (especially airborne and gluten intolerance), bipolar and major depressive disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, and even learning disabilities like dyslexia, to name a few. Anyone with these issues will fit the ADHD criteria outlined by the DSM, but stimulants are not the way to treat them.

“What’s so bad about stimulants?” you might be wondering. They seem to help a lot of people, don’t they? The aforementioned article in the Times mentions that the “drugs can temper hallmark symptoms like severe inattention and hyperactivity but also carry risks like sleep deprivation, appetite suppression and, more rarely, addiction and hallucinations.” But this is only part of the picture.

Firstly, addiction to stimulant medication is not rare; it is common. The drugs’ addictive qualities are obvious. We only need to observe the many patients who are forced to periodically increase their dosage if they want to concentrate. This is because the body stops producing the appropriate levels of neurotransmitters that ADHD meds replace — a trademark of addictive substances. I worry that a generation of Americans won’t be able to concentrate without this medication; big pharma is understandably not as concerned.

Secondly, there are many side-effects to ADHD medication that most people are not aware of: increased anxiety, irritable or depressed mood, severe weight loss due to appetite suppression, and even potential for suicide. But there are consequences that are even less well-known. For example, many patients who are on stimulants report having erectile dysfunction when they are on the medication.

Thirdly, stimulants work for many people in the short-term, but in cases where there is an underlying condition causing them to feel distracted, the drugs serve as Band-Aids at best, masking and sometimes exacerbating the source of the problem.

In my view, there are two types of people who are diagnosed with ADHD: those who exhibit a normal level of distraction and impulsiveness, and those who have another condition or disorder that requires individual treatment.

For my patients who are the former, I recommend that they eat right, exercise more often, get eight hours of quality sleep a night, minimize caffeine intake in the afternoon, monitor their cellphone use while they’re working, and most importantly, do something they’re passionate about. As with many children who act out because they are not being challenged enough in the classroom, adults who have work or class subjects that are not personally fulfilling, or who don’t engage in a meaningful hobby, will understandably become bored, depressed, and distracted. Similarly, today’s standards are pressuring children and adults to perform better and longer at school and at work. I too often see patients who hope to excel on four hours of sleep a night with help from stimulants, but this is a dangerous, unhealthy and unsustainable way of living long-term.

For my second group of patients, who have severe attention issues, I make them undergo a full evaluation to find the source of the problem. Usually, once the original condition is found and treated, the ADHD symptoms go away.

It’s time to rethink our understanding of this condition, offer more thorough diagnostic work, and help people get the right treatment for attention deficit and hyperactivity.

Dr. Richard Saul is a Behavioral Neurologist practicing in the Chicago area. His book, ADHD Does Not Exist, is published by HarperCollins.
 
Let me just say if you are facing a daunting task like say - organizing your garage or helping your daughter move out of her apartment - Adderall can make it all seem over before it even began ! Don't ask how I know, I just heard it somewhere.....
 
Don't think the FAA will buy it.
Besides taking adderall or being diagnosed with adhd doesn't mean you can't be an airline pilot, it's very do able just expensive if I'm not mistaken. Captainron nanny input?
 
"For my patients who are the former, I recommend that they eat right, exercise more often, get eight hours of quality sleep a night, minimize caffeine intake in the afternoon, monitor their cellphone use while they’re working, and most importantly, do something they’re passionate about. As with many children who act out because they are not being challenged enough in the classroom, adults who have work or class subjects that are not personally fulfilling, or who don’t engage in a meaningful hobby, will understandably become bored, depressed, and distracted. Similarly, today’s standards are pressuring children and adults to perform better and longer at school and at work. I too often see patients who hope to excel on four hours of sleep a night with help from stimulants, but this is a dangerous, unhealthy and unsustainable way of living long-term.

For my second group of patients, who have severe attention issues, I make them undergo a full evaluation to find the source of the problem. Usually, once the original condition is found and treated, the ADHD symptoms go away
."

AN OUTRAGE!!
What kind of quack is this that takes reasonable actions for common symptoms and proposes a full evaluation to determine whether someone has ADD or not before putting them on powerful and addictive stimulants.
 
I"m prolly gonna get blistered for this but here goes.

ADD/ADHD are what I refer to as societal diseases. They are a sub-product, or an artifact of our lifestyle in the US. We are basically a society of modern utopia, or as close as we can get to utopia on Earth. Our wants are nearly all met, our needs are long ago satisfied, and we cast around for some 'defect' which doesn't really exist to explain away our lackadaisical attitude. This miasma has expanded to our kids who are shuttled from soccer practice to play dates, without ever really being challenged in any meaningful way.

Success in kids these days is measured by how robotic and uniform we can make them. Our yardstick for improvements are measured by the ability to create decent toast points in girls, and how they compare in dress and body image. In boys(majority of ADHD diagnosis) the problems are much, much deeper.

Very few boys are allowed to go out and get dirty, and toss rocks at a shed, to investigate the old swimmin' hole or creek. They have no unstructured time for imaginations to run wild, for them to discover fire, and girls, and whiskey. The days of letting your kids out of sight of the parent until they are in their mid teens is o-v-e-r.

This kind of mollycoddling has turned the American male child into a prince where all vice is avoided, and all things are granted. They become bored, and restless because their ever increasing active mind is not challenged in a way that the pre-teen is challenged in central Africa, or even in the ME where survival can depend on some skill and kids are allowed to find their own way in an increasingly less hostile world.

Doting parents of a young boy are at fault. Maybe my upbringing was the last hurrah of the independent minded parent who expected some rebellion and put up with a bit of backtalk. Today, any kind of 'issues' with a child have to be the result of some defect or anomaly that can be solved with a pill. What needs to happen, is to turn the kid loose in the formative years, and let kids be kids. More specifically, don't punish a pre-teen boy for being a pre-teen boy.

They can't run around with toy guns anymore or risk being shot by a cop. They have literally zero unstructured time to think, and to dream and escape parental reality for a while and let their mind expand. The US parenting population is ruining a whole generation of young boys with their over-the-top involvement in the kids lives. No wonder they suffer from things.

Stop popping pills. Take away(and destroy) the WII, Xbox, etc. Make them go outside, don't live vicariously through your son(s), let them get dirty, dusty, and make their own discoveries. Buy a bike, and get them a helmet, then say "watch for cars" but have fun. Come home for dinner, and give them some free reign. When I was a kid, without a bike, I was nothing. When I had a bike from 8-16, I could go miles away and visit all kinds of interesting things. If my parents instilled a decent sense of responsibility in me, I could get along fine without them for hours, and hours and fend for myself. That is gone unless you live on a farm or in a tiny midwest town. It needs to come back, and get off the continuous monitoring we have now.

The other benefit will be far, far lower incidences of peanut and myriad other modern allergies.
 
My college-age daughter was diagnosed with ADHD in high school. She was distracted from concentrating on the task at hand. The diagnosis was done by giving her a short-term memory test one day, then repeating another day after taking a single dose of a stimulant. If the memory boost from the stimulant is much more than is typical for the average person, then you have a diagnosis for her type of ADHD.

She now takes a prescription stimulant every day, and it helps a lot with her schoolwork.

She's a great kid, and she works hard, but trust me:

-- you would not want her to fly an airliner.
 
I guess if I am mistaken dr. Bruce is mistaken because that's who I got my advice from
 
As I understood Doc Bruce''s responses in the past, you've got a chance if you can prove the diagnosis was false.
 
Where did Dr. Bruce ever say you can have ADHD and still hold a Class 1 medical ????
I don't think he ever did, but he has said if you were diagnosed with ADHD you could get a medical -- as long as you can prove the diagnosis was incorrect AND that you don't in fact have ADHD.
 
There are us out there who have been diagnosed with adhd did a series of test and had a psychologist state that in no way adhd will affect Xxxxx ability to fly an aircraft. Just fyi
 
There are us out there who have been diagnosed with adhd did a series of test and had a psychologist state that in no way adhd will affect Xxxxx ability to fly an aircraft. Just fyi

I believe the psychologist states you were misdiagnosed with ADHD, not that you have it and can function. FAA no like ADHD even though it might not exist.:lol: If ADHD gets stricken from the DSM, yeah I know it won't happen, but if it did how long would it take the faa to get onboard?
 
I"m prolly gonna get blistered for this but here goes.



ADD/ADHD are what I refer to as societal diseases. They are a sub-product, or an artifact of our lifestyle in the US. We are basically a society of modern utopia, or as close as we can get to utopia on Earth. Our wants are nearly all met, our needs are long ago satisfied, and we cast around for some 'defect' which doesn't really exist to explain away our lackadaisical attitude. This miasma has expanded to our kids who are shuttled from soccer practice to play dates, without ever really being challenged in any meaningful way.



Success in kids these days is measured by how robotic and uniform we can make them. Our yardstick for improvements are measured by the ability to create decent toast points in girls, and how they compare in dress and body image. In boys(majority of ADHD diagnosis) the problems are much, much deeper.



Very few boys are allowed to go out and get dirty, and toss rocks at a shed, to investigate the old swimmin' hole or creek. They have no unstructured time for imaginations to run wild, for them to discover fire, and girls, and whiskey. The days of letting your kids out of sight of the parent until they are in their mid teens is o-v-e-r.



This kind of mollycoddling has turned the American male child into a prince where all vice is avoided, and all things are granted. They become bored, and restless because their ever increasing active mind is not challenged in a way that the pre-teen is challenged in central Africa, or even in the ME where survival can depend on some skill and kids are allowed to find their own way in an increasingly less hostile world.



Doting parents of a young boy are at fault. Maybe my upbringing was the last hurrah of the independent minded parent who expected some rebellion and put up with a bit of backtalk. Today, any kind of 'issues' with a child have to be the result of some defect or anomaly that can be solved with a pill. What needs to happen, is to turn the kid loose in the formative years, and let kids be kids. More specifically, don't punish a pre-teen boy for being a pre-teen boy.



They can't run around with toy guns anymore or risk being shot by a cop. They have literally zero unstructured time to think, and to dream and escape parental reality for a while and let their mind expand. The US parenting population is ruining a whole generation of young boys with their over-the-top involvement in the kids lives. No wonder they suffer from things.



Stop popping pills. Take away(and destroy) the WII, Xbox, etc. Make them go outside, don't live vicariously through your son(s), let them get dirty, dusty, and make their own discoveries. Buy a bike, and get them a helmet, then say "watch for cars" but have fun. Come home for dinner, and give them some free reign. When I was a kid, without a bike, I was nothing. When I had a bike from 8-16, I could go miles away and visit all kinds of interesting things. If my parents instilled a decent sense of responsibility in me, I could get along fine without them for hours, and hours and fend for myself. That is gone unless you live on a farm or in a tiny midwest town. It needs to come back, and get off the continuous monitoring we have now.



The other benefit will be far, far lower incidences of peanut and myriad other modern allergies.


We don't always agree on everything, but you nailed it. Nicely done.

I'm amazed "Flight of Passage" by Rinker Buck isn't a banned book by now.

Imagine the freak out our society would have with two teenagers taking an airplane somewhere by themselves.
 
I think docmirror nailed it.

There's nothing to say ADHD is something that isn't a result of the brain's development in a modern technological society.

Even as recently as when I was growing up a couple decades ago, when Ritalin was beginning to be prescribed like candy, ADHD was pretty effectively treated by parents saying "Sit down and shut up." While this may not have actually treated ADHD, it certainly taught the kids how to effectively manage it.
 
This thread revived itself from March. Woot. Haha.

It's fascinating how dead threads seem to come back to life much more often on the new forum software. I wonder what the UI difference is, that folks pay no attention at all to the dates?

(Since I post and read mainly from Tapatalk, the site still looks the same as it ever did from here, but there's definitely an uptick in necroposts on the new forum software. Is the date posted really really tiny, or something like that? Yeah, I'm too lazy to look. Mostly because it's not enough of a curiosity really, just barely made the "I'll post a question I don't really care about that much", level here. Haha.)
 
This thread revived itself from March. Woot. Haha.

It's fascinating how dead threads seem to come back to life much more often on the new forum software. I wonder what the UI difference is, that folks pay no attention at all to the dates?

(Since I post and read mainly from Tapatalk, the site still looks the same as it ever did from here, but there's definitely an uptick in necroposts on the new forum software. Is the date posted really really tiny, or something like that? Yeah, I'm too lazy to look. Mostly because it's not enough of a curiosity really, just barely made the "I'll post a question I don't really care about that much", level here. Haha.)

The date is pretty unobtrusively located on the bottom. Many of the necroposts are from new users though, so if I had to venture a guess, they came across a particular subject on the forums during a google search, and decided to chime in without looking for or seeing the date of the original posts.
 
The date is displayed smaller than message text, and in medium gray on a light gray background.
 
Here's some food for thought:
Family of 6, pilot dad, 4 sons spaced about 2 years apart, mom takes early retirement to stay home and raise her boys. We did all those things you mentioned, mud and dirt were not strangers in our home. We spent hours running & playing free, enjoying everything Mother Nature had to offer ... Creeks & streams filled with craw daddies, snakes & minnows, open fields filled with butterflies, caterpillars and grasshoppers. Kites (mostly stuck in trees), water balloons, silly string, oversized boxing gloves for everyone, cap guns-paint guns-soft pellet guns-bb guns. Watermelon seed spitting contests, mutton bustin' & crash up derby at the local fair. Meteor shower all-nighters, backyard camping, playing in the rain. Reckless wheelchair races down steep hills (yes they wear helmets.) ... Best crash is always the winner. Go karts, bicycles, dirt bikes. Tractors, lightning bugs, swimming pools & swimming holes. All boys, all the time. Blood, guts and dirt. Guess what ... This kind of NORMAL boy stuff doesn't fit in with expectations in our schools these days. I don't regret for a moment the childhood I gave my boys. We live & enjoy life. I sent my kids to school "on time" ... You know, kindergarten when they were 5, not holding them a year to give them that "extra boost" or "advantage." Blah. So yeah, my kids are kids and they act like kids, normal freaking kids. They're not valedictorians or Rhodes Scholars, they weren't declaring college majors in middle school, but they are pretty awesome, smart, responsible, good kids. My biggest failure as a parent was allowing the school to push the adhd thing on me, to convince me despite my parental gut feeling, that my child was defective. I mean yeah, in elementary school my kid laughed when another boy farted in class. Classroom disruption! He had a bad attitude about writing in his poetry journal. Unfocused! His pencil fell out of his binder in the hallway so he came to class "unprepared" and had to take a zero on his test. Letting him borrow a pencil would surely send the wrong message and thus give him a green light to lose pencils all the time. Don't give him a pencil for 40 minutes, give him lifetime meds instead! Come on, Mom! Get that under control!
No. How about boys being boys. Normal boy behavior. Gah! God help them if, when they grow up, they want to be a pilot. Live & learn the hard way.
Well at least the world has Dr. Bruce for these situations.
Parents who find themselves in this situation, learn from my mistake! FOLLOW YOUR GUT INSTINCT! ALWAYS! Don't be afraid to tell the school to f* off! Demand a classroom change if you have a teacher/student personality mismatch. Hire a private tutor ... Just because a kid needs some extra help in school does not mean they have adhd! A label stuck on a 10 year old that has absolutely no relevance 5 years later takes a lot of time, effort and cash to undo.
 
Here's some food for thought:
Family of 6, pilot dad, 4 sons spaced about 2 years apart, mom takes early retirement to stay home and raise her boys. We did all those things you mentioned, mud and dirt were not strangers in our home. We spent hours running & playing free, enjoying everything Mother Nature had to offer ... Creeks & streams filled with craw daddies, snakes & minnows, open fields filled with butterflies, caterpillars and grasshoppers. Kites (mostly stuck in trees), water balloons, silly string, oversized boxing gloves for everyone, cap guns-paint guns-soft pellet guns-bb guns. Watermelon seed spitting contests, mutton bustin' & crash up derby at the local fair. Meteor shower all-nighters, backyard camping, playing in the rain. Reckless wheelchair races down steep hills (yes they wear helmets.) ... Best crash is always the winner. Go karts, bicycles, dirt bikes. Tractors, lightning bugs, swimming pools & swimming holes. All boys, all the time. Blood, guts and dirt. Guess what ... This kind of NORMAL boy stuff doesn't fit in with expectations in our schools these days. I don't regret for a moment the childhood I gave my boys. We live & enjoy life. I sent my kids to school "on time" ... You know, kindergarten when they were 5, not holding them a year to give them that "extra boost" or "advantage." Blah. So yeah, my kids are kids and they act like kids, normal freaking kids. They're not valedictorians or Rhodes Scholars, they weren't declaring college majors in middle school, but they are pretty awesome, smart, responsible, good kids. My biggest failure as a parent was allowing the school to push the adhd thing on me, to convince me despite my parental gut feeling, that my child was defective. I mean yeah, in elementary school my kid laughed when another boy farted in class. Classroom disruption! He had a bad attitude about writing in his poetry journal. Unfocused! His pencil fell out of his binder in the hallway so he came to class "unprepared" and had to take a zero on his test. Letting him borrow a pencil would surely send the wrong message and thus give him a green light to lose pencils all the time. Don't give him a pencil for 40 minutes, give him lifetime meds instead! Come on, Mom! Get that under control!
No. How about boys being boys. Normal boy behavior. Gah! God help them if, when they grow up, they want to be a pilot. Live & learn the hard way.
Well at least the world has Dr. Bruce for these situations.
Parents who find themselves in this situation, learn from my mistake! FOLLOW YOUR GUT INSTINCT! ALWAYS! Don't be afraid to tell the school to f* off! Demand a classroom change if you have a teacher/student personality mismatch. Hire a private tutor ... Just because a kid needs some extra help in school does not mean they have adhd! A label stuck on a 10 year old that has absolutely no relevance 5 years later takes a lot of time, effort and cash to undo.
There is a conspiracy to take males from the all-American John Wayne model to fay little drones.
 
John Wayne, "tough guy" in reality was 4 F ,had " flat feet" and did not serve in WW2 so much for Hollywood tough guys.
What's your point Jimmy, other than you prefer our youth to aspire to be girly-man zombies instead of manly men?
 
We don't always agree on everything, but you nailed it. Nicely done.

I'm amazed "Flight of Passage" by Rinker Buck isn't a banned book by now.

Imagine the freak out our society would have with two teenagers taking an airplane somewhere by themselves.

I just finished reading that book - the difference in attitudes toward airplanes is really different too. Can you imagine a couple of teenagers today buying a beat up Cub, overhauling it and then finding an A&P who would sign off on their work afterwards?
 
Let me just say if you are facing a daunting task like say - organizing your garage or helping your daughter move out of her apartment - Adderall can make it all seem over before it even began ! Don't ask how I know, I just heard it somewhere.....
I've also heard it's great for cleaning airplanes. I guess you'll get the belly REALLY CLEAN...
 
I agree with that article 100%

Some of the greatest moments in this country occurred before the times of everyone being "diagnosed" with something or another and eating pills for every little issue in their life.


That said, I'm cool with the new ATP rule changes and the ADD bullchit, because as a ATP working pilot myself it makes me more of a commodity and helps fix the REAL issue in the industry, and that's a issue of pilot pay and respect.
 
My college-age daughter was diagnosed with ADHD in high school. She was distracted from concentrating on the task at hand. The diagnosis was done by giving her a short-term memory test one day, then repeating another day after taking a single dose of a stimulant. If the memory boost from the stimulant is much more than is typical for the average person, then you have a diagnosis for her type of ADHD.

She now takes a prescription stimulant every day, and it helps a lot with her schoolwork.

She's a great kid, and she works hard, but trust me:

-- you would not want her to fly an airliner.

I'd wager if you wanted to change her "meds" over to meth shed really get a lot of work done and would even get school work done with less sleep.
 
What's your point Jimmy, other than you prefer our youth to aspire to be girly-man zombies instead of manly men?
Try to keep it mature and thoughtful. Wayne was a Hollywood fraud. Jimmy Stewart , on the other hand , had " the right stuff" for sure.
 
I just finished reading that book - the difference in attitudes toward airplanes is really different too. Can you imagine a couple of teenagers today buying a beat up Cub, overhauling it and then finding an A&P who would sign off on their work afterwards?

Definitely. It's an interesting view back to a simpler time. And if they'd have wrecked and hurt or killed themselves, I doubt there'd be a single lawyer involved.
 
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