True, but as Bruce said, all it will take is one Dr being taken to the cleaners and it's game over.
The questionnaire is the frontside of the 8500-8.
The signature to include medical license # is after the backside of the 8500-8. It is clearly designed to lay the unmistakable TORT trail back to the doctor, and it'll only take one suit to make this a problem.
But now, it's too late, I fear, to go back to the Aussie model.....
Good luck with your doc.
The medicals are for the Boy Scout adult leaders too. A serious medical problem in the back country can endanger the whole group when they attempt a rescue.
We keep hearing the "cry wolf" of what if ....
Well, the "what if's" have happened, and they make the news cycle for a day and are then promptly forgotten about.
There's a DO in my bldg that does DOT physicals for $45. Saw him yesterday and asked him if he'd be doing them for the FAA.
He said no. Smiled, and said $55.....
I'm not worried about finding a doc for a simple 4 year government exam.
Pulosi's added wording in the Bill will just make sure some ambulance chaser lawyers will get their cut at insurance company payoff time. If it amounts to any significant dollar amounts we'll all pay more for our airplane insurance and the Docs will pay more for their liability insurance.
The modifications P made were about keeping the lawyers fed. Not about health or safety. But she can spin it as being about both, knowing full well she can't actually provide either one.
It wasn't Pulosi.
Who has a better understanding of an applicant's health?
#1 An AME that is visited once every 2 to 5 years?
OR
#2 A family physician that sees the applicant several times a year including (as applicable):
(a) Performs applicant's yearly physicals for employment?
(b) Sees the applicant's children several times a year?
(c) Sees the applicant's spouse several times a year?
The only thing an AME understands better than a family physician is FAA regulation. Sure there are some "aerospace" factors just like climbing a mountain or scuba diving has factors.
You suppose people do those activities for work and probably are even required by an employer to get a physical? ]
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Well, this is a source. Agree?
Here is Dr. Mark Eidson from CAMA's letter to Congress/Senate
Dear Congressman/Senator,
The Civil Aviation Medical Association (CAMA) is composed of aviation medical examiners (AME’s) who are interested in aviation and who provide medical certification services for our nation’s pilots. AME’s, half of whom are pilots, fully support general aviation and the safe medical certification of pilots. We wish to state our strong opposition to H.R. 3708 and S.2103, which we believe will seriously threaten the safety of affected pilots, their passengers, and the public below. These bills propose complete elimination of the FAA third class medical certificate for private pilots flying in clear weather with up to five passengers at altitudes up to 14,000 feet and speeds up to 287 miles per hour.
The third class medical certificate for private pilots is neither costly nor burdensome, being required every five years below age 40 and every two years thereafter. Its very existence deters individuals with clearly unsafe medical conditions from applying. In others, safe certification follows identification and treatment of potentially serious conditions. The House and Senate bills would allow lifelong flying without medical oversight by any physician, much less an AME. Individuals with serious and even life-threatening heart, lung, brain, psychiatric and alcohol/substance abuse conditions could declare themselves fit to fly. Self-declaration would free these individuals to carry five passengers at high altitudes at speeds approaching 300 miles per hour. Complete elimination of medical oversight for these pilots would constitute a clear and present danger to aviation safety.
Being mindful of challenges to general aviation, a CAMA task force for medical certification has proposed expanded recreational pilot privileges that would allow operation of larger aircraft at greater speeds with relaxed, simplified medical requirements. The key difference would be the preservation of medical oversight by AME’s. This model exists today safely and successfully in Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom—all insist upon medical oversight. CAMA strongly recommends preservation of medical oversight for pilots and urges you to vote against its elimination as proposed in these bills.
Sincerely,
Mark Eidson, M.D.
President, CAMA
Pretty damning.
Let me be the first to outright accuse the AMEs of being money grubbing self interested bastids.![]()
Something like 30,000 people die each year due to prescribed drugs. I find it hard to believe that we'll even register.
The requirement should be simple. Can you hear, see and think clearly. Are you expected to remain vertical for the next two years.
You don't need an AME for that. I know most AME's like helping pilots, but the AME/FAA process is not necessary for 3rd class.
Smoking holes are more noticeable to the press (and lawyers) than someone dying in their home or hospital.
Cheers
Doc claimed it was. Personally I don't care, and it wasn't particular to my point. Replace her with any lifer politician and it still applies.
I didn't read all the post so I apologize if it's already been brought up but what happens to my color vision restriction and no night flying? Does that all go away now? Or do I still have to take steps to remove it?
I believe he said it was FEINSTEIN. Senator. Pelosi is in the House. House has not voted yet.
Ha. Think you're right. The two are both such idiots I merged them in my head.![]()