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FOX is reporting 4 dead.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/07/oregon-small-plane-crash-kills-4.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2017/04/four_people_killed_in_linn_cou.html
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KEUG 071822Z 19027G36KT 8SM -RA SCT024 OVC037 09/07 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 18036/1820 \
KEUG 071754Z 20018G26KT 7SM -RA FEW024 OVC035 08/07 A2951 RMK AO2 PK WND 18035/1706 RAB1656
 
Ryanb said:
I only see one photo there and the airplane is resting on it's top. The one in this thread is on it's belly. Doesn't quite jive. Far too soon to make that conclusion.
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I've seem either way. The commonality is a very small debris field.
 
azblackbird said:
I've seem either way. The commonality is a very small debris field.
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I've seen wreckage photos several ways myself and I have yet been able to determine the cause by a still photo alone. So, I have to hand it to you sir. Great job!
 
Ryanb said:
I've seen wreckage photos several ways myself and I have yet been able to determine the cause by a still photo alone. So, I have to give it to you sir. Great job!
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Read the NTSB reports when they're released, then go back and look at the prior photos that match the reports, then go ahhhhhh... they stalled and spun into the ground. I like to study s**t like that, but then again I'm one weird mofo. :rolleyes:
 
tawood said:
You're probably one of those guys that can drive past a big car crash, with police/fire trucks all over the place, and not even take a glance...
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Lol. That's me. I don't rubberneck or gawk at accidents or pullovers and I get ****ed at all of the idiots who slow to a crawl to do so.
 
We drove from Eugene to Boise today, and the winds were wild all day long. Not judging (different people obviously have different comfort levels), but for me personally, this would have been a wx cancel kind of day. Plain poop wx in the Willamette Valley, mountain obscuration going across the Cascades, hail storms in the Bend area, and a whole lot of ugly looking buildups all across the state, although it got significantly more VMC east of the Cascades (though windier). I was glad to be in my car and not flying, though even driving was annoying with the crosswind and gusts. When we were getting gas in Burns, I was able to lean back and let the wind hold me up, it was that strong.
 
Since WAG's seem to be the trend today, I'm gonna say inflight breakup. Got into severe turbulence and pulled wings/tail off that thing.
 
mtuomi said:
Since WAG's seem to be the trend today, I'm gonna say inflight breakup. Got into severe turbulence and pulled wings/tail off that thing.
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It's a better guess than a flat spin. I've never seen a flat spin that tore off the wings and empennage, leaving a hunk of fuselage in a field.
 
It was indeed ugly flying weather here in the northwest today. I planned to fly my 182 80nm north today to get a tow hook installed, but Thursday afternoon when I saw the forecast, I called & cancelled with my AI. I'm not afraid of wind. I got my PPL in gusty Livingston, MT where the wind never stops blowing.

When I read about this accident this afternoon it confirmed my decision. RIP for those aboard.

It's that Risk Management thingy the FAA keeps talking about.
 
Unlike others, I will wait until the ntsb report is out before showing my ass by making uninformed baseless judgement calls on a horrendous invident where four people perished from the beautiful planet.

My condolences to the families of all involved. May they rest in peace. So mote it be.
 
Flightaware's track logs are often inaccurate, but this one is interesting. If this is accurate it appears he was on a left downwind for KEUG 16L/R, and was turning on a course to intercept the final when the track stops. There was a very strong wind from the south, and the groundspeed slows dramatically from 150 knots to 84 knots to 58 knots in the course of his left turn. He was at 1,900' (last data point says 1,800'). He may have been on a visual approach (lowest scattered layer was 2,700' MSL); the published IAPs are at least 2,000' MSL out where he was.

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Pilawt said:
Flightaware's track logs are often inaccurate, but this one is interesting. If this is accurate it appears he was on a left downwind for KEUG 16L/R, and was turning on a course to intercept the final when the track stops. There was a very strong wind from the south, and the groundspeed slows dramatically from 150 knots to 84 knots to 58 knots in the course of his left turn. He was at 1,900' (last data point says 1,800'). He may have been on a visual approach (lowest scattered layer was 2,700' MSL); the published IAPs are at least 2,000' MSL out where he was.

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Microburst?

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