Old fueling stations.

Wow...there was ethanol being sold at one of those stations...I honestly thought that was a "newer" concept...
 
Kelvin said:
Wow...there was ethanol being sold at one of those stations...I honestly thought that was a "newer" concept...
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Yeah I saw that too, and supposedly it's bad for older cars. :lol:

I'd also like to know more about that parking rack thing... not sure what to call it with cars parked at all different levels. I assume there had to be an elevator somewhere.
 
They had one of those in Portland as well. The picture could be of that one. You just gave the attendant your ticket and the elevator would automatically fetch your car.
 
cowman said:
Yeah I saw that too, and supposedly it's bad for older cars. :lol:

I'd also like to know more about that parking rack thing... not sure what to call it with cars parked at all different levels. I assume there had to be an elevator somewhere.
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The racks where used in big cities. Around the sixties .each rack had a highdraulic elevator to lift the car to one of the four levels.turned out not to be practical unless space was at a premium.
 
frfly172 said:
The racks where used in big cities. Around the sixties .each rack had a highdraulic elevator to lift the car to one of the four levels.turned out not to be practical unless space was at a premium.
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There are still some in NYC.
 
That "Gillmore Station (4th pic down) sure looks like the one on rt 46 in NJ that I worked at, much earlier picture though.
 
Geico266 said:
Nope, I believe Hitler's war machine depended on ethanol also.
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Nope, coal oil, diesel tanks. that is why he wanted eastern europe (coal mines of Poland)

coal oil, we could do it too, but it releases huge amounts of COs.
 
Tom-D said:
Nope, coal oil, diesel tanks. that is why he wanted eastern europe (coal mines of Poland)

coal oil, we could do it too, but it releases huge amounts of COs.
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Coal fired generating plants are a whole lot cleaner than they were fifty years ago. I can recall around 1960 or so seeing huge blankets of smog over Detroit. Now, CAVU isn't uncommon in this area.
 
Tom-D said:
Nope, coal oil, diesel tanks. that is why he wanted eastern europe (coal mines of Poland)

coal oil, we could do it too, but it releases huge amounts of COs.
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Of course they were after oil, they didn't have any. Did they use ethanol? Yes, it fueled their rocket program, and was use to extend their gasoline reserves when ever possible.

http://roberrific.typepad.com/drunkenmoose/2007/02/ethanol_is_rock.html

CO2 is plant food, you are exhaling it right now. Don't buy into the green house gas crap. It's a lie. :yes:
 
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Geico266 said:
Of course they were after oil, they didn't have any. Did they use ethanol? Yes, it fueled their rocket program, and was use to extend their gasoline reserves when ever possible.

http://roberrific.typepad.com/drunkenmoose/2007/02/ethanol_is_rock.html
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Quoted from your reference

German scientists working on their ‘vengeance weapon’ on the Isle of Peenemunde chose ethanol as its primary fuel source because it was good, fast and cheap.
That was the V2 projects
Remember the Germans had a fuel shortage in the 1940s. The Allies blockaded German ports and cut off all crude oil imports to restrict Hitler’s ability to conduct mobile warfare. It might have worked except that two decades earlier, Franz Fischer and Hans Tropsch pioneered a method for making diesel fuel from coal gas, and the Ruhr valley had lots of coal.
 
Tom-D said:
Quoted from your reference

German scientists working on thAchillesgeance weapon’ on the Isle of Peenemunde chose ethanol as its primary fuel source because it was good, fast and cheap.
That was the V2 projects
Remember the Germans had a fuel shortage in the 1940s. The Allies blockaded German ports and cut off all crude oil imports to restrict Hitler’s ability to conduct mobile warfare. It might have worked except that two decades earlier, Franz Fischer and Hans Tropsch pioneered a method for making diesel fuel from coal gas, and the Ruhr valley had lots of coal.
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So you are claiming Germany, in WWII did not use ethanol in vehicles? :dunno:

Volkwagan was one of the first 100% ethanol & methanol driving vehicles built in the 30's & 40's in Germany, on orders directly from Hitler. Along with the rocket fuel programs. :yes:

Their decision to wage war without strategic oil reserves in Germany was their "Achelles Heel". Hilted ordered all resources to come up with synthetic fuel production from any source. He was losing the war due to fuel shortages. To assume he did not allow ethanol in vehicles is pretty silly Tom. ;)
 
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Geico266 said:
So you are claiming Germany, in WWII did not use ethanol in vehicles? :dunno:

In as far as their war machine? ( the point I was making) it was diesel. including several of their aircraft.

Volkwagan was one of the first 100% ethanol & methanol driving vehicles built in the 30's & 40's in Germany, on orders directly from Hitler. Along with the rocket fuel programs. :yes:
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No doubt their civil vehicles ran on some thing, Alcohol? Why not?
 
Pilawt said:
The B-17 is still there, but it's in pretty sad shape now.

http://thebomber.wix.com/bomb#!
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What a great thing to do. To bad others didn't follow suit.

One who did was Bob Richardson, who was a real character at Boeing Field, back when you could run around the airport in your tug and go anywhere. I crawled all over his B-17, but somehow missed the flight. He died so young!
 
From what I can recall from the story about the B-17 at the restaurant was the guy who then owned a fancy gas station went back east and purchased the B-17 from the government after the war. He only had a private pilot certificate, SEL, but was able to bullsh*t his way into the cockpit. He flew it by himself to the west coast and had the B-17 mounted on pylons above his gas station. It was quite a story and I wish I could remember all the details. I was kind of hoping someone would post it here.

-John
 
As I recall, he bought one but crashed on the way home. Then they gave him another and he drained the fuel from all the neighboring B-17s in mothball for the flight home.
 
John Baker said:
I'm trying to figure out what a "registered" bathroom was.

-John
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In 1939, Texaco became one of the first oil companies to introduce a "Registered Rest Room" program to ensure that restroom facilities at all Texaco stations nationwide maintained a standard level of cleanliness to the motoring public.

From the Wiki page on Texaco, History section.
 
Thanks for sharing. I am old enough to appreciate the history, but just young enough that I never experienced anything that old during my driving career. My first job was at an amoco station. Not sure how long after the name was changed from standard oil, but one of the guys I worked with refused to say amoco. It was standard oil to him.

Jim
 
9th pic down....Rancho Cucamunga station, is bout 5 miles from my house. Building is still there but not in use (last time I went by). Corner of Archibald & Foothill:)
 
GAZOO said:
9th pic down....Rancho Cucamunga station, is bout 5 miles from my house. Building is still there but not in use (last time I went by). Corner of Archibald & Foothill:)
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I've never seen the station (before my time), but the look of Cucamonga Peak brings back memories. I lived in Alta Loma from '68-71, when I was a kid.
 
The one in the tenth photo ("Casa de Petrol") was at Ventura Boulevard & Beverly Glen Drive in Sherman Oaks, CA. The name comes from the dealership next door (still there), "Casa de Cadillac".
 
cowman said:
Yeah I saw that too, and supposedly it's bad for older cars. :lol:

I'd also like to know more about that parking rack thing... not sure what to call it with cars parked at all different levels. I assume there had to be an elevator somewhere.
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The whole rack is an elevator that goes down in a pit so you can drive the upper levels on and off.
 
Kelvin said:
Wow...there was ethanol being sold at one of those stations...I honestly thought that was a "newer" concept...
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Nope, there were actually a few different additives that could have been added to gasoline back then to boost octane and detonation resistance, including alcohol. TEL ended up winning out for various reasons. It was definitely a different time before regulations and people caring about the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead
 
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