Obama's TFR

t0r0nad0

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So, I just got this TFR email:

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Special Airspace Bulletin
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FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER HOUSTON, TX, ON FRIDAY A NOTAM has been issued that will restrict flight in the area during President Obama's planned visit. See AOPA Online for a graphical depiction ( http://www.aopa.org/images/whatsnew/newsitems/2009/notams/9-4918.gif ).
==> 30 nm radius TFR <==
Location:
IAH VOR's 370-degree radial at 1.5 nautical miles Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
2:30 p.m. until 3:35 p.m. local Friday, October 16 6:50 p.m. until 8:05 p.m. local Friday, October 16
Requirements for flight and operations not authorized ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams-special.html )
　
==> 10 nm radius no-fly zone <==
Location:
IAH VOR's 370-degree radial at 1.5 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
2:30 p.m. until 3:35 p.m. local Friday, October 16
6:50 p.m. until 8:05 p.m. local Friday, October 16
==> IMPACTED AIRPORTS <==
George Bush Intercontinental/Houston IAH
Williams 9X1
David Wayne Hooks Memorial DWH
Weiser Air Park EYQ
Dan Jones International T51
William P Hobby HOU
West Houston IWS
Baytown HPY
La Porte Municipal T41
Lone Star Executive CXO
Ellington Field EFD
Skyway Manor T79
Sack-O-Grande Acroport 9X9
Flyin' B 39R
Sugar Land Regional SGR
Pearland Regional LVJ
Rwj Airpark 54T
Cleveland Municipal 6R3
Houston-Southwest AXH
Wolfe Air Park 3T2
Westheimer Air Park O07
　
　
==> 30 nm radius TFR <==
Location:
CLL VOR's 102-degree radial at 3.1 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
3:15 p.m. until 7:10 p.m. local Friday, October 16
Requirements for flight and operations not authorized
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams-special.html )
　
==> 10 nm radius no-fly zone <==
Location:
CLL VOR's 102-degree radial at 3.1 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
3:15 p.m. until 7:10 p.m. local Friday, October 16
==> IMPACTED AIRPORTS <==
Easterwood Field CLL
Coulter Field CFD
Navasota Municipal 60R
Caldwell Municipal RWV
Hearne Municipal LHB
Brenham Municipal 11R
Madisonville Municipal 51R
　
　
　
View the NOTAM ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#9/4918 ).

Because TFR airspace frequently changes, AOPA strongly encourages
pilots to obtain a briefing before every flight.
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What the hell is a 370-deg radial?!
 
What the hell is a 370-deg radial?
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The secret service will explain it to you in the dark room with the spotlight on your face.

tfr.faa.gov says "037 radial", so 370 seems like a not too surprising typo variant of this.
-harry
 
t0r0nad0 said:
So, I just got this TFR email:



What the hell is a 370-deg radial?!
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It's the radial ten degrees right of the 360 radial. It's not a typo, they did it twice. Temporary insanity? Permanent stupidity? It was carried over incorrectly from the NOTAM and the coordinates were dropped:

WITHIN A 30 NMR OF 295832N/0951935W OR THE IAH037001.5 UP TO BUT
NOT INCLUDING 18000 FT MSL. EFFECTIVE 0910161930 UTC
(1430 LOCAL 10/16/09) UNTIL 0910162035 UTC (1535 LOCAL 10/16/09).
 
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It's not a typo, they did it twice.
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Then typo + cut 'n' paste, or typo + automatically generated text.

The lat/long they give seems to reasonably correspond with the 037 radial. Of course, since the distance from the VOR is 1.5nm, it's not like the direction is all _that_ important, unless I'm planning on scooting by 1.5nm outside the edge, which seems ill-advised.
-harry
 
mantakos said:
Then typo + cut 'n' paste, or typo + automatically generated text.

The lat/long they give seems to reasonably correspond with the 037 radial. Of course, since the distance from the VOR is 1.5nm, it's not like the direction is all _that_ important, unless I'm planning on scooting by 1.5nm outside the edge, which seems ill-advised.
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The NOTAM got it right, it shows "IAH037001.5". That's 037 degrees at 001.5 DME. Apparently the leading zero was dropped in the carryover.
 
So that's the change Obama promised. He has given us 10 more degrees.

Or is it because of Global Warming.

Or it gets hot in Houston. They needed more degrees.

I could go on and on all day but I won't.
 
Or someone was watching too much West Wing. Remember the episode where someone announced Air Force One couldn't land on runway "three-niner"?
 
azure said:
Or someone was watching too much West Wing. Remember the episode where someone announced Air Force One couldn't land on runway "three-niner"?
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oh man, I missed that, even though I've watched the DVDs too.
 
mantakos said:
The secret service will explain it to you in the dark room with the spotlight on your face.

tfr.faa.gov says "037 radial", so 370 seems like a not too surprising typo variant of this.
-harry
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Yeah, AOPA sent out a correction shortly afterwards, I just thought it was funny and wanted to point out a mistake.

Trapper John said:
It's Nigel Tufnel's VOR, "this one goes to 370".


Trapper John
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OMG that's funny! That's hilarious.

GigG601XL said:
So that's the change Obama promised. He has given us 10 more degrees.

Or is it because of Global Warming.

Or it gets hot in Houston. They needed more degrees.

I could go on and on all day but I won't.
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The last thing we need here in Houston is more degrees.

So, 1.5nm on the 037deg radial of the IAH VOR. Basically just telling us that AF1 is going to be parked on the East Cargo ramp at KIAH. Wonder why he's going there and not to EFD, like he normally does? He's just jumping in a chopper and heading to CLL anyways...
 
azure said:
Or someone was watching too much West Wing. Remember the episode where someone announced Air Force One couldn't land on runway "three-niner"?
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They also mixed up between the F16 and F15 in that episode.

--Carlos V.
 
azure said:
Or someone was watching too much West Wing. Remember the episode where someone announced Air Force One couldn't land on runway "three-niner"?
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Well, actually, that's a true statement. It can't. Neither can any of us, for that matter. :D
 
FWIW, I just watched his motorcade go under my hotel window in SF a couple of hours ago!
 
GigG601XL said:
So that's the change Obama promised. He has given us 10 more degrees.

Or is it because of Global Warming.

Or it gets hot in Houston. They needed more degrees.

I could go on and on all day but I won't.
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I guess I should've added, "and I hope nobody else does either."
 
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