NTSB report on a rwy excursion

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  1. Matthew

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    I came across this today. The full report is in the PDF.

    "Undetectable damage" to the aircraft prevented it from being able to fly. The Captain didn't realize it until he tried to rotate, then shut her down. His checkpilot scolded him for aborting above V1, but didn't try to override. They went off the end of the rwy.

    Later inspections and wind tunnel simulations showed that high winds, blowing over a hangar, caused a dynamic load on the parked aircraft and damaged an elevator actuator which caused the right elevator to remain jammed in a nose down position.

    The write up, pictures, CVR transcript, and the NTSB praise of the flight crew's professionalism is a really interesting read. Those two pilots likely saved the lives of the University of Michigan men's basketball team.

    https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20190307.aspx

    Here's the full report:

    https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1901.pdf
     
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    kayoh190 En-Route PoA Supporter

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    Some pilots doing some pilot-y sh*t. Good job, gentlemen.
     
  3. midwestpa24

    midwestpa24 Cleared for Takeoff

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    When this first happened, there was discussion about why he rejected T/O beyond V1. Didn't have a choice, plane wouldn't rotate!
     
  4. Matthew

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    Yeah, the CVR shows it:
    "Rotate"
    "Abort"
    "Don't reject above V1!"
    "It wasn't flying!"

    That was a quick decision, and the right one.
     
  5. IK04

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    Anyone who has had to say the magic word, "ABORT!" will get the willies just reading this...
     
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    I looked through that report to see what they had to say about the pre-flight inspection. It seems that while it's required of course to look at the stabilizer, there's not much to gain from doing so, as the stabilizer is 30 feet above ground and stuff can be in an extreme position due to just normal winds.
     
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    There was a 727 that went down in Puerto Rico if I recall where the flight engineer overrode the captain's decision to try a go around. He got a lot of flack over it (mostly from the union, Flight Engineers are not pilots), but he pretty much saved them. Due to some airline mergers and other things he had more 727 left seat time than the pilot flying at that point.
     
  8. jordane93

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    That’s why our company manual says abort after V1 if the plane won’t fly.
     
  9. Shepherd

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    Two thumbs up.
    Well done.
     
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    And Austin Hatch, who wasn't on the plane, escaped having a third airplane accident.
     
  11. Kenny Phillips

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    As if there is a choice ... unless one considers boring full chat into what lies beyond the runway.
     
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  12. flyingron

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    Well, it beats running off the end of the runway at full power.

    Coming into Oshkosh doing the warbird approach to Runway 36R the year the F16 went off the end of 36L, the tower told me they wanted me to continue off the end of the runway. They then added "On purpose, there's a taxiway there."
     
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