November (not the month)

Most of the time approach/center replies "Cessna/Mooney/Diamond/Grumman/etc 1234" whenever I call up like that. FSS never does and always replies "November 1234". I suppose my speed is relevant to approach/center but not FSS. Whatever the case, that's the reason I always say type when calling a controller and say "November" when calling FSS.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Then there was Nick, who reserved N999NN just because "Niner niner niner november november" is the most obnoxious tail number that anyone could have to say on the radio.
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LOL. Needs some trees and fifes though. :)

SkyDog58 said:
I wonder what the pilots of the FAA's Gulfstream N1 say. November One? Gulfstream One? One?
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NexGen One. LOL.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Then there was Nick, who reserved N999NN just because "Niner niner niner november november" is the most obnoxious tail number that anyone could have to say on the radio.
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I disagree. You left off the first November. "November Niner Niner Niner November November" is one November worse.
 
Timbeck2 said:
Oh so that's why I didn't know it. I'm not a former controller yet. ;)
Obviously the FAA Administrator doesn't fly around Southern Arizona that much.
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Well to be honest I wasn't sure if it was just Safeair or had a number with it, so I did have to look it up. ;) Most of those special callsigns I've flushed long ago but some stick in my memory.
 
When I first went to school to be a controller, we were required to know what all the "special" call signs were so I've seen "Safeair" on tests but never in reality. Only special call signs I've actually seen were FLC, (flight check) AF1, Justice and SAM. Call signs we see just about every day is Omaha, Flint, and Survey.

I'd rather trainees know how to think 3 minutes ahead and not put two planes together instead of knowing call signs that they probably will never see.
 
Timbeck2 said:
When I first went to school to be a controller, we were required to know what all the "special" call signs were so I've seen "Safeair" on tests but never in reality. Only special call signs I've actually seen were FLC, (flight check) AF1, Justice and SAM. Call signs we see just about every day is Omaha, Flint, and Survey.

I'd rather trainees know how to think 3 minutes ahead and not put two planes together instead of knowing call signs that they probably will never see.
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Yeah, worked most of those as well. Plenty of Flight Checks. Worked Open Skies once on approach. At the time it was new and no clue what they were doing.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
I almost always am talking to ATC while flying. I've noticed over my flying career (so 10 years) that it seems more aircraft are omitting the aircraft type and just going with "November xxxx". Jets seem to do that more than prop jobs from what I can tell. I always go with "Twin Cessna six-two-zero-charlie-alpha." It seems the past few years it's been a lot more noticeable.

Likewise, I've heard more and more controllers go with "November xxxx" rather than reading back the aircraft type. I've also had a number of controllers get the aircraft type wrong, which is likely why. In the past couple weeks flying the 414 I've been called a Conquest and a Citation, which of course I am not. I've also been called a Chancellor which is technically also incorrect, since the Chancellor was the 414A. However both a tip tank 414 or a 414A (straight wing) file as C414, so the controller has no way of knowing which is which without asking (which only a few have bothered with).

When operating in foreign countries you're supposed to use November in the tail number, but that's another matter.
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I was called a lot of things when flying the 414. Mostly I was called a 421. Once while talking to ground, another plane was called to give way to the 421 coming from your right..... I came back with thanks for the promotion but I am still a 414. :lol:
 
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