North Pole Approach Plate

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  1. Maverick

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    For some reason that attachment won't open for me. It looks vaguely familiar though... :thumbsup:
     
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    Try double clicking, Joe. That's what it took for me to get it to open.
     
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    I had to Right Click, then click on Open Link.
     
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    ha! hilarious!
     
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    Nice approach plate!

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    I love it.
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    Love the runway designator: 36/36:yikes:
     
  9. Areeda

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    And all the feeder routes are heading 360T, or the note "approach may intersect the runway at any angle"
     
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    That's one heck of an NDB if you can use it to nav from Sydney to the NP!
     
  11. Ted DuPuis

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    This plate was obviously created by an Icelander (BI and Reykjavik approach!)

    Everyone knows the North Pole is Canadian! It should be a "CY" airport and "Alert Approach"...although HO is not taken so maybe a code of HOHO:D
     
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    It's a BMP. Here it is as a JPG, which should open more readily.

    Shouldn't the first half of the runway be 36 and the second half 18?
     

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    Thought experiment...remember at high latitudes, you use true rather than magnetic.

    If you touch down on a runway that runs through the pole, at each end, what is your true course at touchdown?
     
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    Would a magnetic compass act like a CDI over the North Pole? Cone of confusion and all?
     
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    If the magnetic pole were anywhere near the geographic pole...which it isn't!
     
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    But the heading will switch at the halfway point...you were cleared to land 36 but yer rollin' out on 18, how's that gonna look to the FSDO when there's an incursion?
     
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    Where else can a 747 make a 180 degree turn on a dime on rollout?:rofl:
     
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    No, if the center of the runway is the pole both ends are runway 36.
     
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    His point was that halfway through the runway the runway turns from 36 into 18, heading the same direction.
     
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    Thanks Grant, I should have thought of changing it to a .jpg before I posted it. :)

    I was trying to post it as a full size graphic but I couldn't find a way to do that.
     
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    No doubt, but as runway designations are determined from the approach direction both ends would be 36.
     
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    But what if the touchdown is on the second half of the runway?:eek:
     
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    Runway designations are determined from the approach direction. It doesn't matter how far you float.
     
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    I'm just wondering why the MSA is 1000'. Nothing grows on the ice cap.
     
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    What does the TERPS say about MSA and local obstructions?
     
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  30. Joe B

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    Just out of curiosity where did you find it as a 1MB bmp? It started life as a 163K jpg in the first place.

    After you've uploaded a graphic, open it from the attachment manager. That opens a new browser window which gives you the full URL of the attachment. You can copy/paste that URL into the "Insert Image" dialog.
     
  31. Joe B

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    Most of it is dead reckoning: just set heading to 360° until within range of the NDB.

    ;)
     
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    But that wasn't the question Bub. The question was about the course on touchdown.
     
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    Why would US TERPS apply at 90ºN :D
     
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    The original question was:


    For any competent pilot it will be 360.



    A competent pilot won't touchdown in the second half of the runway.
     
  35. EdFred

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    You've obviously never landed on 19 at KSAW before the construction.
     
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    Youse guys crack me up...:rolleyes2:
     
  37. roncachamp

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    How is that obvious to you?
     
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    Yeah, with 12,000+ feet of runway, I could see landing way past halfway down, unless I really wanted taxi practice.


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  39. EdFred

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    Because a competant pilot *would* touchdown more than halfway down on 19. Why? Because the GA terminal is at the south end of the field, along with the fuel pumps. Yeah, I'm going to touchdown on the numbers on 19, and then taxi for a mile and a half to the fuel pumps. Maybe if I'm a moron. I didn't even pull the power until OVER the numbers at TPA last time I landed 19.
     
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    Me too, but if you did that at BINP the only turnoff would be behind you.