Non-standard departure from pattern radio calls

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  1. GreatLakesFlying

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    Introduction: We are all told to depart the pattern at a single-runway, non-towered airport either straight-out or via a 45 degrees left turn, above TPA (AIM 4-3-3).

    At my home airport (06C - Schaumburg), when departing runway 11, you cannot leave the pattern via a straight-out nor with a left-45 because we are 3.5 miles west of Chicago O'Hare's Class-B surface sector. The local procedure is to exit the pattern via left crosswind if heading north, and left downwind for west and south directions. (East-bound travel requires the north or south departure and circumnavigation of the Bravo space).

    Question: what is the best-practice for radio calls announcing this kind of departure (ie, leaving the pattern via crosswind or downwind leg)?

    Observation: most pilots flying out of 06C when 11 is in use, announce departure before taking the runway, and that's it. A few, myself included, make the following announcements. For example:

    At hold short: Schaumburg traffic, Archer 12345, departing runway 11, to the north, via left crosswind, Schaumburg.

    At the end of the departure leg: Schaumburg traffic, Archer 12345, turning left crosswind runway 11 will be leaving pattern from here, Schaumburg.

    As always, thanks in advance for your helpful comments.
     
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    Sounds good to me. Told me exactly what you were doing. Rather than saying "departing the pattern from here" you could have repeated that you were departing the pattern north but I'm just nitpicking--I understood you the way you said it.
     
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    "Departing the pattern right turn out."

    91.126 says what?

    Hint: it only addresses landings.
     
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    Donno, I only depart straight out and only land straight in
     
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    I used to not depart straight out due to D space. So I would just call crosswind leg, call downwind leg then call my departure ("departing the pattern to the south" or whatever). My choices were right turn out going N / NW, or downwind for all other directions.
     
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    This question again?

    ‘ABC Traffic Cessna 123 is departing the pattern to the east, ABC Traffic.”

    Don’t over think things so much.
     
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    "Brenham Traffic, Red/White Pitts, taking runway 34, straight up departure, Brenham"?
     
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    Yep... They all know me around there and stay out of the way when I line up on the runway :D
     
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    When you make a call for a "hover taxi" I'll be sure to pull up a chair. :)
     
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    Don’t forget to say “Last call.” ;)
     
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    I actually do quite often!

    :)
     
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    "ryanb on the ramp, taxiing for pattern work. last call"
     
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    Just use simple English and don't overthink it.
     
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    :yeahthat:

    F-18s departing Lambert (where the McDonnell plant was) used to call that a "Viking departure".
     
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    Last call at Schaumburg is usually announced in Pilot Pete’s.
     
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    My rule in communication is: if I was busy flying another plane in the pattern would I understand what was being said and could quickly figure out where the plane making the call is. That said, I think your calls arr good enough.
     
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    Well, adding a position call would be helpful to others in or near the pattern.

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