New subject, who can identify these old relics

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  1. Bob Weber

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    This will be a good test... Just rediscovered on "that shelf" my wife wants cleaned up!

    I will attempt to refit with an LED and add it to the museum.

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  2. Bob Weber

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    look at the logo on the handle, an old form of re purpose . It will need cleaned, but then will end up in the museum.

    Anybody have a timed out ELT 10 battery?
     
  3. Bob Weber

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    Finally back in heaven and looking for the finished pic of a panel for another thread, can't find it, gotta wait on my Sweetie to look further.

    I did find this old relic I should break out once in a while as a response. I spent many a day tearing myself up removing a lot of wire and building a new panel on one of these... On Mark, with the clear nose. What aircraft? What did On Mark do to it!

    Though I would have posed for this in a heartbeat, I never got to fly in the one I worked on...

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  4. Bob Weber

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    I found one!

    I found one! Reduce, reuse, and recycle... IMG_20191111_101614.jpg
     
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    I've got two of these that came out of my 182, they look good on the shelf...

    KM100 was my first bike, I haven't seen one in years...
     
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  6. Bob Weber

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    My Wife will get a kick out of this! Mine was a Benelli 65.

    Who can remember how those radios, and later indicators, confused the thought process of dialing in a VOR?
     
  7. Bob Weber

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    I just saw this one and it reminded me of this old indicator, I don't remember where it came from. I pulled a lot of equipment out of old warbirds, it always amazed me how much real estate they took up! IMG_20191112_133341.jpg
     
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    There's a wiki page that tells about the mods On Mark did on the A-26 Invader.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Mark_Marksman
     
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  9. Bob Weber

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    Yep the A-26B "an honest four hundred knot aircraft", this was said by the guy that flew it into Grand Junction. It was fascinating to see the armament wiring bundles I pulled out, and the armor plate. I really wanted to dig into the engines deep down in my heart!
     
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  10. Bob Weber

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    Still looking for an elusive picture, and found this old relic..

    Many a night spent curled up reading it with a head full of dreams. A long time ago..


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  11. Bob Weber

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    Finally got this shot, I always called it a "speedometer cable" driving a little rack and pinion set up.


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  12. Bob Weber

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    These relics were used to explain the how and why of gyros, any guess which one is which?

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  13. Bob Weber

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    An old relic, minted the same year as me... 59'

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  14. Bob Weber

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    One of the early altitude preselects, with a fine trim adjust for accuracy!

    It worked on the old "coffee grinder" technology.

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  15. Bob Weber

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    I was always taught to provide an install print, this is a very early Webair provided print! IMG_20191119_162611.jpg
     
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    Who can Identify this old gear and has anyone seen one that was in this good of shape? IMG_20191211_171910.jpg
     
  17. Bob Weber

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    What was your first GPS?

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    My first flight director. One put the red balls over the green balls.
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  19. Bob Weber

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    DH 841A I would wager
     
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    It was a tiny little add on box to the M4D autopilot. To hand fly it you had to engage the autopilot and flight director, then disengage the autopilot. I liked it........but the M4D was unreliable.
     
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    I'm trying to figure out how to hook this up in my Fly Baby.
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    I believe that gyro model number is DH 841A.

    If you knew how the servos work in an M4D system you would understand some of the reliability issues..

    That's a cool old relic in good shape, what is it?
     
  23. Bob Weber

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    I removed this a while back..

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    Spent numerous weekends in the tail of a B model pulling junk wiring out. I filled a refrigerator box with what I removed. I'd lose about 10 pounds of weight every weekend I was in there, as the summer of 1980 was one of the hottest on record in central Texas.
     
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    I'm still looking for that picture, finally came across this old jewel.

    I was in Grand Junction for decades, I now live in Michigan to get away from the heat and close to the water.

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    For that matter, this one, too...but it's missing a knob.
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    I'd like to 3-D print a knob to fit it, but can't get find any images of what it originally looked like. From the size of the fitting, this actually looks like it takes a tachometer cable rather than a knob.

    Label says "Closing Speed Control Ind Type No. 841 BK-01-883". The "883" is in slightly different characters, so I think it's a serial number. Manufacturer is "Kollsman Instrument Division of the Square D Company."

    Ron "One last call for alcohol so finish your whiskey or beer" Wanttaja
     
  27. Bob Weber

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    That looks like a remote cable type set up there, I would guess it ties that indicator to a large box that crunches God knows what information.
     
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    Yeah, that seems logical, considering how big the fitting is. Probably kluge up something that fits and looks halfway original.

    Thanks!

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    I can't remember what it was called. It was installed in a 1967 King Air A90, along with a PILE of other old airline boxes. I just happened to run across that picture a few years ago and saved it. I've never seen another.
     
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    Well only 40 years old but an aviation relic of mine.
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    There's a certain nostalgia in these, even for people like me who did not grow up flying with these.. sad to think that in 30 or 40 years a dusty g1000 pfd screen or control module will lack the nostalgic effect that these have.. somehow telling my kids "I flew with one of these" surely will elicit a different kind of response
     
  32. Bob Weber

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    I suppose I can pass this as a relic..

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  34. Bob Weber

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    Finally I find it, from left to right and all the way down I built. no longer gracing this site but had to share..
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