New Cub - XCub

Thing could give my Mooney a run for its money. Pretty impressive. Don't like to think about the price tag that comes with it, though.
 
steingar said:
Thing could give my Mooney a run for its money. Pretty impressive. Don't like to think about the price tag that comes with it, though.
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I guess I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion but speed-wise, they are talking 140-145 MPH and my friend's J model cruises at 165 knots.

EDIT - You said your Mooney. Missed that. Reading ability, I don't have it today!

Unless you're talking about something other than speed.

It's a neat airplane for sure though. Big dollars. AvWeb video said 290K if memory serves.
 
I'd buy a Super STOL and have money left for a boat.

Then I would have two rather useless, but fun, toys:)
 
fiveoboy01 said:
I guess I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion but speed-wise, they are talking 140-145 MPH and my friend's J model cruises at 165 knots.

EDIT - You said your Mooney. Missed that. Reading ability, I don't have it today!

Unless you're talking about something other than speed.

It's a neat airplane for sure though. Big dollars. AvWeb video said 290K if memory serves.
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Mine does 160 mph. I said give it a run for its money, not beat it. That said, pretty impressive for something that can land in a mud hole.
 
steingar said:
Mine does 160 mph. I said give it a run for its money, not beat it. That said, pretty impressive for something that can land in a mud hole.
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And the only way a mooney lands in 170ft doesn't leave the airplane in a reusable state. I could take off and land in my culdasac with this thing.
 
O-360 C1G. Hartzell composite CS prop. Spring gear. Pretty darn cushy interior. Not your typical working Cub.
 
James331 said:
For a glorified dirt bike lol
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Not anymore. 1000sm of range. ~150mph cruise speed. An absurd useful load and a comfortable cockpit (4" wider than a normal super cub). Carbon Cubs aren't just toys anymore.
 
Somedudeintn said:
And the only way a mooney lands in 170ft doesn't leave the airplane in a reusable state. I could take off and land in my culdasac with this thing.
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I'm not even sure that crashing a Mooney into the runway vertically would contain all of the debris in 170ft
 
As much as I love Cubs and admire Cub Crafters I think it's a bit of a stretch to call this a "quantum leap" Husky's have always had a 145 mph cruise. The thing that makes the XCub stand out is the 2300 lb GW but it's empty weight is a couple hundred pounds heavier than a standard PA-18 or an A1. There sure is a lot of bling though, I'll give you that.
 
Mtns2Skies said:
Not anymore. 1000sm of range. ~150mph cruise speed. An absurd useful load and a comfortable cockpit (4" wider than a normal super cub). Carbon Cubs aren't just toys anymore.
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I was just paying off the icon jetski comments.

As for the cub, I'd sooner get the airframes alaska wide body PA18
 
I would take one if someone wanted to buy if for me. But if it was my own money I was spending I think a Glasair Sportsman 2+2 is a better deal.
 
What did a 1966 Cub cost? I just used an on-line dollar calculator. A $40K item in 1966 would cost $295K+ in 2016 dollars.

180hp Cubs and Huskies average in the mid to high 1200# range and many are well over 1300#. The assertion that the X Cub is heavy is not true, especially compared to a widebody 180hp Supercub that's CAR3 certified while the XCub is part 23. And to the cost, have any of you done a ground up rebuild of a Cub or priced one from Airframes or Dakota Cub? The XCub price tag is completely reasonable from where I sit. At any rate its a cool airplane. How the spring gear handles big tires, big bumps, skis, etc is a curiosity but guys who'll buy $300K Cubs aren't the guys who'll work them so that isn't very important.
 
Nice plane. I'll wait 10 years until the price is 1/3 of what they are selling it for and get one....maybe.
 
Stewartb said:
What did a 1966 Cub cost?
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That Cub cost roughly $11,000 brand new. I had 43 hours and a fresh PPCert when I picked it up in Lock Haven and flew my first XC to Vancouver, WA. It was the "deluxe" model, had gyros, and was "metalized"(not what most think.)

What I was too young and dumb to do was to walk into the factory and shake Wm Piper's hand.
 
You can get a used Husky or old Super Cub for 90k. A really good one.
 
A new 172 is north of $300K. You can get good used ones for a lot less obut people still are buying new. If its too rich for you? Don't buy one. That's why I don't have a new Ferrari. I might could figure a way to pay for one but I don't see a value for me. The next guy may see it differently. I'm spending my sports car money on a bad-ass expermental Supercub, and it'll cost more than most guys would guess.
 
Think I need to start making some more money some how...maybe start a "Breaking Bad" business...who's in??
 
Stewartb said:
What did a 1966 Cub cost? I just used an on-line dollar calculator. A $40K item in 1966 would cost $295K+ in 2016 dollars.

180hp Cubs and Huskies average in the mid to high 1200# range and many are well over 1300#. The assertion that the X Cub is heavy is not true, especially compared to a widebody 180hp Supercub that's CAR3 certified while the XCub is part 23. And to the cost, have any of you done a ground up rebuild of a Cub or priced one from Airframes or Dakota Cub? The XCub price tag is completely reasonable from where I sit. At any rate its a cool airplane. How the spring gear handles big tires, big bumps, skis, etc is a curiosity but guys who'll buy $300K Cubs aren't the guys who'll work them so that isn't very important.
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I'm doing a ground up build on a 1954 Supercub as we speak. Airframes Alaska 4" wide fuselage with all of the mods, Dakota Cub square tip wings with slats, O-360 done by Lycon, 3 blade MT C/S prop. It will probably come out in the mid 1200# range and with my labor it will be every bit of $200,000. He bought back the wreck from the insurance for $12,000 so add that in. So for that price he will have virtually a brand new airplane that will give a $300,000+ Husky of Cub Crafters a run for the money. Don
 
Yep, my Backcountry will be in the same price range. I'll be interested in your final weight. Not like I've known a lot of slotted Dakota wing Cubs but I've never known any to weigh under 1300#. I suspect my Rev 2 will be right in there as well.

The 2300# gross of the X Cub is a weight that will make a Cub fly like a pig. At least for what most of us want in a Cub. The 1000# useful is debatable.
 
I built a Backcountry Cub and finished it in 2011. It was 1250# and had the 2300# gross. I flew it several times at 21-2200# and it didn't reduce the take off distance or rate of climb that much. It had a 185 hp O-320 with a fixed pitch cruise prop.It cruised at 115MPH with 8.50 tires. A carbon fiber C/S prop really makes a Cub come alive. My friend's PA-12 with 31" tires and a O-320 with a two blade MT C/S prop cruises 125 mph. I think the one I'm building will be around 130 MPH. Stewart are you doing the Mackay or the PA-18? A friend just finished a Javron and it came out 1140# with an O-360. Picture of the one I built and flew. Don
 

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Backcountry Supercub Revision 2. The airframe is stretched and the cabin is taller than the earlier versions. Presumably stretched to allow for the bigger engines we can get. I'm awaiting an IO-400 with API injection. Should dyno at 225hp+ at the expense of an added 30# over a 360 parallel valve variant. Still debating on the <20# Catto or the 47# CS Whirl Wind.
 
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