Negative ANN article about Cirrus

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Dave Siciliano, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. frcabot

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    I bet he regrets that now. Does he still use it?

    By the way, as an attorney, this is all quite amusing (obviously I can understand how it would not be amusing to be on the receiving end of Campbell's bizarre antics). If he ever pulled anything like this with me, I would probably be the one suing him for defamation (or malicious prosecution / abuse of process if he tried suing me). Still, at some point one has to forget and move on (not forgiving is OK, though).
     
  2. flyingron

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    Thought he could come in and push around rec.aviation like his fairly one-way exploits in US Aviator. He was sure to find out that was in error. Google "cap10zoom" and you can find the archives of his exploits.
    Well you better govern yourself accordingly then.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: THIS THREAD is the last link on the 1st page of search results!

    @aol.com OF COURSE!


    Zoom is gonna be sooooooooooooo unhappy.
     
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    Haven't you ever heard of a harbinger of Zoom? :rolleyes:

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    That was really horrible, Nauga. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    (Now, how's that spelled, again... H-a-r-b....?)

    :)

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    Me either. People still go there?
     
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    If Campbell did to me what he did to Ron, I would have a huge axe too. And I would not be afraid to use it.
     
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    I'm surprised he got married again, frankly. Wonder what she is like.

    This stands out to me:

    Seems like those words come out every few years from him. I wonder what it will be this time.
     
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    More like every few months. Typical grandiose thinking. It'll be just like he other times: lots of bluster with very few results.
     
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    He's angling for a CJ this time.
     
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    The question is, what could he do with it if he got one?

    One of the things that puzzled me from the Cirrus case was his violent reaction to Cirrus' attorney asking questions about losing his medical thirty years earlier (to refresh folks' memory, he threatened...on the record during the depostion...to sic the FBI on the attorney).

    Certainly, one can understand his reluctance to discuss it. But back in 1999, he freely answered questions about it in Federal court. Did a pretty good job of it, and ~12 years later, could have made even a stronger case that it was old data and not applicable in the 21st century.

    But yet...there was the total refusal to answer ANY questions. And the claim that it was an invasion of privacy.

    It could very well be that he no longer has a license.

    The natural flow of questions about the 1980 action during the Cirrus deposition would be to ask whether he *currently* had a license and medical. He hasn't been listed in the FAA pilot database for quite a while.

    I thought, originally, that he'd asked to not be listed due to privacy concerns. But the FAA web page says only that they'll withhold one's address. There are plenty of celebrities with pilot licenses listed; some with blank addresses, others with what are probably business addresses.

    But Jim Campbell doesn't seem to be listed.

    If Campbell didn't have a license/medical, he had to stop any questions at all about the status of his medical or pilot license or it would become public. Eventually, it led to him caving and handing the aircraft back before the judge could rule that he had to answer the questions.

    If the FAA had acted to pull his tickets, it would be protected by privacy laws unless he appealed to the NTSB...as he did in the '80s. So no one would know...unless he was forced to answer questions about it during a deposition.

    There's one little bit of additional data on this. When Campbell agreed to give Cirrus back the airplane, he gave them the key to the hangar. Everyone assumed the he'd taken the plane back to his airpark home. Seems weird that he'd give them, essentially, the key to his house.

    But if he didn't have a valid license, he couldn't have legally flown the airplane away. If it were found at his airpark address, the FAA could ask some hard questions on how it got there. And if he *had* flown it illegally, it might quash any chance of his getting his license back in the future. So the solution to that would be a rented hangar at the airport where the airplane has originally been repossessed. Hence the free handing over the key.

    Just a set of guesses, mind you. But I'm guessing that if Campbell *does* get access to a CJ, he'll probably have to ride in back....

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    Wow - this thread made for some real interesting reading. Great way to kill an hour or so in a hotel room!
     
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    What's an unqualified pilot? The Cirrus guys PPL is just as valid as the homebuilt guys PPL.
     
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    Also, the headstone says Vicki Cruse, not Vicki Campbell. Interesting.
     
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    If I had a free new CJ that sucker would be on lease with the busiest charter company I could find for it.
     
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    If I recall correctly a few years ago Mr Campbell claimed to have been test flying an F-16. If so, a CJ would be kind of a come-down.
     
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    Must have been in the hour he was at the Navy Test Pilot's school or while he as a Captain for JAL.
     
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    Nothing to add other than it made my Friday to see this thread pop up again!
     
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    Most military organizations have policies that allow them to fly people in the media for PR purposes. That's why, when the Blues or the Thunderbirds come to town, you see the Channel 8 weather girl and the entertainment reporter for the alternative weekly getting rides.

    Years ago, Campbell wrote an article about getting an F-16 ride with a National Guard or Reserve unit. It was accompanied by pictures, and actual names of people, so it probably happened.

    However, Campbell referenced it in a USENET post in Feb 1997:
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    They threw everything the F-16 could handle at me last year and I stayed with it. It was the longest 9-10 G run I've ever done in my life.
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    One of our POA participants, who had been a test engineer at Pax River, responded:
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    "Viper 11's in, down for an overstress, 1.5."

    It doesn't take much to lose credibility in a technical field.
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    In other words, Campbell had claimed that that National Guard media flight subjected him to G-levels in excess of those for which the F-16 is approved...so high that the plane would require an inspection afterwards.

    Such overstress might be expected as part of combat. But in a media flight? Uh-Uh.

    For being knowledgeable in aviation, Nauga Hyde received the traditional reward: Campbell sued him.

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    And here I thought it was because of my dashing good looks and rapier-like wit :D
    To be honest, you didn't have to be very knowledgeable to trip him up back then.

    Nauga,
    and his target-rich environment
     
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    The F-16 will do 9 G's, though, won't it? A friend of mine got a ride in T-bird 8 and they pulled 9 G's. He even got a patch that says 9G on it. And he put out a recording where the demo pilot, Maj. Tony Mulhare, says that they're going to pull 9G's just before they do it.

    The -10 is, of course, the extra load factor of Capt. Zoom's ego. ;)
     
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    9 yes. 10 no - not without an overstress inspection and some 'splainin afterwards. Maybe he was excited and misread 1.0 in the HUD repeater? :rolleyes:

    I prefer to think of it as a "no-load" factor ;)

    Nauga,
    who once lost a coin toss for an F-16 hop
     
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    That's gotta hurt. Heh. ;)
     
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    Not as bad as winning the coin toss against Tommy Allsup.
     
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    I made out just fine in the deal. ;)

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    The F-16 has a nine-g limit, and I think that the airplane flight control system won't let it over-g.

    A lot of the external stores that it has to carry to be useful have lower acceleration limits.
     
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    Wasn't there a bit of a dust-up a few years back about the Israelis reprogramming the F-16 flight control system to increase the G limit?
     
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    Why is it that every time he goes off on one of these rants I lose interest after the first paragraph or so? Perhaps because they are all the same? It's not because I have a short attention span, I help write international standards on EMC. This guy is just nuts.
     
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    I don't see MAG Aviation listed.
     
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    Campbell is the past master of the future tense; he keeps talking about what great things are just around the corner. New business opportunities, FBI investigations, books to be published, lawsuits to be filed, people to be arrested, etc. It never happens, but no one remembers.

    It's like the psychics in the tabloids. They have their new years' predictions (Space aliens to land in New York! Massive tidal wave to hit Omaha) but by the following February, it's faded into the past and no one holds them to account.

    When something Campbell promises DOES happen, it's like Ralphie and the decoder in "A Christmas Story." Big grandiose claims, but at the end, it's just a bit of cheap tin and a commercial.

    Ron Wanttaja
     
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    I physically could not read that web page. I picked up the general tone of hysteria, but my old brain could not process the actual text.
     
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    Actually, the rogues at the Skeptic's Guide To The Universe podcast do an annual assessment of popular psychic's predictions.

    The success rate is abysmal, of course, but believers in that sort of thing tend to remember the hits and forget the misses.

    And the "hits", such as they are, are usually of the type, "There will be a big storm/earthquake/natural disaster somewhere." Kind of hard to miss with one of those.
     
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