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OK, searched the archives, and I don't see this one having been presented before. Saw this at the airport on Saturday. Name that plane (the YELLOW one in the foreground! I purposely framed the other in the background for scale reference):

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Varga Kachina (or earlier Morrissey/Shinn). The dorsal "schwoop" looks like a modification...
 
If I'm not mistaken, there's one of those at GTU whose owner wants one of our instructors to teach him in.
 
Yeah, my guess was Morrissey
 
It is a DC-3, or Dakota, or C-47. :smile: Oh wait! You meant the one in the foreground. :rofl::rofl::rofl: My bet is a Varga Kachina also. :yes:
 
is that a Ryan PT-19 (?) in the background?
 
It's a Morrisey 2000C, from 1956. Actually, it's serial number 1A, the first one built.

Those that guessed "Shinn" or "Varga" are also close to being correct, they were made by the same folks... however the 2000C had only ONE manufactured--this is that instance. History of the Morrisey/Shinn/Varga line can be found here.

http://www1.airliners.net/open.file?id=1177206

Airliners.net has this to say about N58789:

Created by adding metal wings and tail to the Morrisey 1000C "Nifty", this design later was later produced by Shinn and Varga. Originally registered N5000K, this airframe spent many years flying in Central America before it returned to the US. On display in the Vintage Flying Museum.
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Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only reason I had even the vaguest notion what it was, was that I saw a picture of a Morrissey very recently. Might've been in the latest EAA magazine. Dunno. Had never heard of one before, but I KNOW ONE WHEN I SEE ONE!!!!!
 
flyersfan31 said:
Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only reason I had even the vaguest notion what it was, was that I saw a picture of a Morrissey very recently. Might've been in the latest EAA magazine. Dunno. Had never heard of one before, but I KNOW ONE WHEN I SEE ONE!!!!!
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Current issue of Flying magazine. Just saw it last night as I finished reading it.
 
Ghery said:
Current issue of Flying magazine. Just saw it last night as I finished reading it.
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Really?! What are the odds?? Was it an article about this plane? Or what context was the photo in?
 
Greg Bockelman said:
No. That is a Ryan PT-22. The PT-19 had an inline Ranger engine on it. And it was built by Fairchild.
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Had a few hours in the 22. One of my acro students owned one as a second airplane. Loved flying it. It was a REAL crosswind tiger!!! Gave you a bit of a workout on the hard surface on gusty days, but it was a barrel of fun.
I miss the "good ole' days" :-))

Dudley Henriques
IFPF
 
TangoWhiskey said:
Really?! What are the odds?? Was it an article about this plane? Or what context was the photo in?
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Wish I had seen this question while I was still at home. Can't remember the context, but it might have been the 25/50 years ago column at the end of the mag.
 
OK, here's another one. This is one you don't see everyday. For size perspective, notice the Lear 45 (I think) in queue in front of this short stubby high wing with four engines. Can you name it?

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I had the 146 guessed right away but Greg had been sitting at the computer waiting... gosh!

William Moncrief comes into Austin frequently, including every single home game. "Lucky Liz" was landing yesterday as I was taxiing out with a discovery flight. He takes up a good bit of space on the Atlantic ramp but not near as much as a 737 that's been hanging around this past week. The plane is named for his mother.

His family has quite a history starting with his father...

http://moncriefoil.com/history.htm
 
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Cap'n Jack said:
Maybe they wouldn't need their own planes if BA would schedule flights more often than occasionally.
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That's a great example of an ambiguously written sentence. Should have said "and occasionally using scheduled...."

I had only one experience on BA; well, two if you count the return trip to the States. Boeing 777 from DFW to Gatwick, non-stop. No complaints from either me or my wife--was the best trip we've ever had. Coach in the back was like first class in the front of a US carrier. Of course, the fact that I got to ride jumpseat for a good deal of the flight, including the entire descent/approach/landing/taxi-to-the-gate at Gatwick might flavor my opinion... just a bit. :D
 
Troy- when was this flight you took? I used to like BA too.

Lately Lufthansa's got my goat...changed a flight, didn't re-link the connections, then told me that only my travel agent could ask Lufthansa to make the changes under international law (they had me in Frankfurt a day after my flight to the USA left).:mad3::mad2::lightning::mad::mad:
 
My wife and I rode in the BAE 146 in South Africa last year. South African Express has a bunch of them. Not a bad ride, but on climbout it makes sounds like more engines are spooling up. The noise seems to be coming from inboard ends of the flaps. I think there's a vortex that rips off the flap corner and howls against the fuselage as they retract. Disappears entirely as the flap finishes retracting.

Dan
 
Dan Thomas said:
My wife and I rode in the BAE 146 in South Africa last year. South African Express has a bunch of them. Not a bad ride, but on climbout it makes sounds like more engines are spooling up. The noise seems to be coming from inboard ends of the flaps. I think there's a vortex that rips off the flap corner and howls against the fuselage as they retract. Disappears entirely as the flap finishes retracting.

Dan
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Here's a video on departure in the -300 series BAE 146 on Lufthansa, from inside the passenger cabin (IMC arrival, too):

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_BAE_Systems_146-Airline_Lufthansa_Aviation_Video-5094.html
 
I used to ride around California in 146s, as Air Cal and PSA both had those for n-state rides. They were great planes for the use, very quiet (joke was, they had four blow dryers for engines). They do have a *very* loud and distinctive howling noise that they make when flaps are deployed.

It only took AA and USAir a couple of years after they acquired the local carriers (AirCal and PSA, respectively) to almost completely lose the market share they each had in California, through indifferent customer service, and the 146s, which were excellent in service for AirCal and PSA , became unneeded. Southwest Airlines should have sent them "Thank You" cards.
 
I woulda guessed this one too - They used to do the United Express routes in and out of MSN. My primary flight instructor flew these at his first airline job. I rode on one, once.

SCCutler said:
They do have a *very* loud and distinctive howling noise that they make when flaps are deployed.
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I was also warned during my primary training (when we happened to get "caution wake turbulence" behind one of these) that they made some hellacious wake turbulence, way worse than their size would indicate.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
BA was good then. They started downhill in 2004 and have kept sliding. None of us at work want to fly BA anymore.
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Hmm IMHO BA started sliding well before 1999, it was more like 1994 form my experience. I am now one of the avoid BA and Heathrow at all costs business travelers. I have even spent the night at Munich to avoid BA and Heathrow.
 
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