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I told my wife I would take her to Europe for our anniversary.
The places we are currently thinking of are in no order.
Paris, Rome, Scotland, Whales.
Scotland & Whales is to see old castles and whats left of old castles.
Paris & Rome we realy did not have any idea just like the idea of going there.
My questions are how long is needed? We are thinking of 7 days there.
A self driving tour or a guided tour?
The only other country we have been in is Canada & Ireland.
 
You can go as long or as short as you want. Some of us keep going back...

Paris: What else can I say, it's Paris. Galleries, food, Tour Eiffel, wine, Seine, food, shopping, wine, rinse lather repeat. Giverney (Monet's studio) is a day trip. I've spent as little as a night in Paris, and as long as a week. And I still go back.

Rome: All roads lead there. In the last 18 months, I've spent 7 days there. You can fill 7 days, or you can do a bit more of a sampler by spending 3-4 days in Rome and 3-4 days in Tuscany, down the coast, in Venice or in lake country. With 2 weeks, I'd do Rome plus one or two other places. There are the ruins, the usual sites (Trevi Fountain, etc), good food & wine, the Vatican (depending on when you go, allow close to a full day between waiting in line for admission & visiting).

For either city, you will not have a problem using English, though using some of the local language will earn you a measure of respect.

Scotland & Wales... well, all of the UK... language is not a problem. If you've never been to London, it's worth a visit, too. The countryside & old castles are teriffic - take walking shoes & do some of the trails. Plenty to see & do.

Advice: you don't want a car in any of the major cities. In the major cities (Paris, Rome, London), public transport is the way to go. If you head into the country, you'll probably want a car: this can be pricy and gas is 2-3x the cost in the US.

Really, it comes down to what you're looking for. I don't think you can go wrong in ANY of the options you've laid out. Paris for the romance, art, and food. Rome for the history, food, and art (and romance, too). Scotland/Wales/London for the history.

Be aware, though, if you go this year that the Olympics are in London. That will raise costs & make for bigger crowds/less availability pretty much everywhere in the country. Rome is a popular location anytime, as is Paris. I think you'll find slightly better airfare into Paris but you'll need to shop it.
 
2-3 nights in paris, 2 nights in Geneva, 2 nights in Florence

take da train

can't say i'm a world traveler but i've been around there a bit (incl england and scotland recently) and those were the highlights
 
It will be in May when we go.
I was only planing on a car if we did a out of area tour or to see the country side. I figure If I did a city (Paris/Rome) we would not want a car.

I did look a little into spending 2-3 days in a place and either flying or the train to other places too. I am just not sure if that would be enough time in each place.
 
Do you have current passports? If not, get them NOW!!!!! Do not wait. Do not pass go.
 
It will be in May when we go.
I was only planing on a car if we did a out of area tour or to see the country side. I figure If I did a city (Paris/Rome) we would not want a car.

I did look a little into spending 2-3 days in a place and either flying or the train to other places too. I am just not sure if that would be enough time in each place.

2-3 days is very little in each place if you've not been before. I'd spend more time than that, especially if you don't know whether you'll get back.

One other consideration: Paris and Rome, in the city, are pretty expensive at the big hotels. In the country, you'll find things less expensive. But then you'll miss the benefits of the cities.

Personally, I love Paris in the spring. You definitely don't want to go to Paris in August.

One other thing to keep in mind: if you plan for Paris or Rome for a week, there's plenty of stuff in the surrounding areas to fill the rest of the time.
 
Personally, I'm a fan of the UK. I'd go to London for 2-3 days, then a trip to Wales or Scotland. The fact that everyone speaks English is great, and, honestly, London is a great city, with everything from Castles to the British Museum to great shopping and theaters. Another option (IMO) is to head to London for a few days then spend a day in York on the way to Edenburgh (sp?) Scotland. London, York, and Edenburgh (and Cardiff, Wales for that matter) are all well served by Britrail.

I'm a self guided tour person myself. Figure out what you'd like to see and make it happen. In the cities (not the "wilds" of Wales and Scotland), the public transportation system is your friend. You can get anywhere you want very easily.
 
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7 days = 4.5 useful... Kinda short unless you can't go longer. I would pick a place you want to go and spend the whole time in that spot; rather than trying to see a lot, see a little but deeper.
 
If you go to London, set aside a full day for the Air Museum at Hendon.

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/
Depending on your interest, two days may be worthwhile at this location. Consider bringing a tripod if you want photographs as they have "mood lighting" in some locations.

London, Rome, and probably Paris could be entire week-long visits on their own.
 
Depending on your interest, two days may be worthwhile at this location. Consider bringing a tripod if you want photographs as they have "mood lighting" in some locations.

London, Rome, and probably Paris could be entire week-long visits on their own.


A little derail here for those of you who take low light photos...

I bought a Sony 70-400 lens in Amsterdam to try it out as it gave me optics I was looking for at 1/3rd of the weight of what else does the job as well or better. Since it was a proprietary mount, I bought the cheapest camera that went with it, the Sony a33. There is a "Low Light Handheld" mode Sony has (was also on my GFs Sony smaller series camera) that shoots a series of higher speed images and mosaics them all on top of each other for a nice clear image. I am hand holding at 400mm in light conditions using ISO 100 film would require f5.6 for 2 seconds or more. I don't even carry a monopod anymore for it. Here is a hand held shot by a none too steady photographer by that time in very low light conditions:

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A little derail here for those of you who take low light photos...

I bought a Sony 70-400 lens in Amsterdam to try it out as it gave me optics I was looking for at 1/3rd of the weight of what else does the job as well or better. Since it was a proprietary mount, I bought the cheapest camera that went with it, the Sony a33. There is a "Low Light Handheld" mode Sony has (was also on my GFs Sony smaller series camera) that shoots a series of higher speed images and mosaics them all on top of each other for a nice clear image. I am hand holding at 400mm in light conditions using ISO 100 film would require f5.6 for 2 seconds or more. I don't even carry a monopod anymore for it. Here is a hand held shot by a none too steady photographer by that time in very low light conditions:

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Still looks rather noisy as if the ISO was pushed high.
 
Still looks rather noisy as if the ISO was pushed high.


Yes, noisy, but no shake or motion in the scene, also remember these files are seriously reduced for transmission on the internet rather than send 5+mb files. That was hand held with the lens set at about 250mm. Normally that would require a shutter speed of 1/250th of a second to render a shake free picture, since I am limited to ~f 5 at that length (f4 @ 70mm f5.6 @ 400mm) I would have needed 9 more stops worth of light in order to have taken a single exposure image with even that much light on it.

I can hand hold now in much much darker conditions than I could with my Nikons and a 300 or 400mm f2.8 EDIF lenses, that's for sure.
 
I told my wife I would take her to Europe for our anniversary.
The places we are currently thinking of are in no order.
Paris, Rome, Scotland, Whales.
Scotland & Whales is to see old castles and whats left of old castles.
Paris & Rome we realy did not have any idea just like the idea of going there.
My questions are how long is needed? We are thinking of 7 days there.
A self driving tour or a guided tour?
The only other country we have been in is Canada & Ireland.


Can't speak about any of the places other than Scotland. I've been there several times, for about a week each, on business. Up in the Highlands, northern Scotland, I love it up there (specifically in and around Inverness). It's very easy to find a tour bus to get you around. The times I did that, I never felt rushed about it either. A taxi will get you around town a lot cheaper than a rental car and you don't have to figure out how to drive on the wrong side of the road. And, you'll be right in the middle of Whisky country. It's bigger than it looks, but a little smaller than you'd think. A drive out to the west coast, stop for lunch, walk around for a couple hours, and drive back will burn up a day - then you can end the day in a pub over dinner a couple of drinks. Head out in a different direction another day and spend an afternoon at Loch Ness throwing rocks a Nessie, or go off another direction for distillery tours for another day. Burn up another day walking around town and checking out walking trails and parks, and more pubs. A lot depends on the time of the year, too. Since it's so far north, in the summer it'll stay light until pretty late.
 
I've visited all of the above except Rome, some by bicycle, some by rental car, some on foot or by train, often visiting former exchange students. London and Paris, particularly the museums and landmarks, are magic, but the people can be rushed and somewhat brusque and the lines can be long. The countryside (to me) in both countries is even more appealing. In small towns everywhere you find a warm welcome, especially if you are polite. In France, you'll usually get best results if you try at least a few words in French and understand the basic courtesies. (Upon walking into a shop, always greet the proprietor right away. Eye-contact, a smile, and a cheery "Bonjour, Madame..." is all you really need, but to walk in to a shop or up to a farmer's market kiosk and immediately begin to fondle the merchandise without so much as a word of acknowledgment is considered very rude. And, sigh, very American.) Off the beaten track in both countries, along the small roads, there are castles, cathedrals, vineyards, historic sites, and public gardens that are fabulous. Allow enough time to savor. Too many people want to see "it all" in two days and then rush on to the next high spot. Can't be done. Relax and enjoy, do a little and do it right, and save some fun for next time. Consider staying in very small local hotels, gites d'etap, and B&Bs rather than the international cookie-cutter chain hotels. Unpredictable? Yes. But a fine way to meet people, get personalized expert advice, and collect memories. And the food: a traditional English B&B "fry-up" will last you until tea-time. A good Dutch hostess prides herself on her lavish breakfast spread of breads, jams, and cheeses, and she'll know which way to go to see the handsomest flower fields. Rental bikes are a great way to travel in the Netherlands-everything's close, it's flat, everybody speaks good English, and the bike paths are grand. In France, breakfast is likely to have been skimpy. Paint-thinner coffee may have been served in oversized thimbles. (confession: Cafe' Americain-- the ONLY reason to stop at a McDonald's in France) So if you stop in a small town at noon, hit all the little shops in the 'centrum' to pick up a picnic worthy of royalty. All that's left is to find a lovely park, spread out your blanket, and feast on an assortment interesting cheeses (more than 300 varieties!) and deli meats, a superb baguette, lovely salads and bakery treats, and maybe a wee bottle of wine. (The typical French roadside restaurant budget lunch of baked chicken and glistening fries gets old after a while.) Wherever you find yourself, pick up a good atlas or detailed road map. The signs are great, but instead of route numbers, you'll find signs pointing to Next Village or Nearest Big City thataway---> . Know where you want to be next, -- if you care. We often don't. Arggghh. Somebody stop me before I organize a tour.
 
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You've got time now to prepare. By that, I mean read. A country-specific series of books called "Travelers' Tales" is wonderful for cultural background. They're not guidebooks, but collections of stories that lend a fine flavor to the places you go. Check out what Rick Steves (of Public TV and Europe Through The Back Door books) has to say. His favorites are pretty popular these days, but his approach is excellent. Especially his advice on keeping an open mind, and on packing light! The comments and suggestions on his website were good, last I looked. Read a good brief history, so at least you can get your kings straight. Guide books are OK, especially for 'closed on Mondays' type info, but a bit stultifying, unless you luck into just the right one, and hardly the kind of pre-trip reading that will keep you awake. Have fun! Can't wait to hear the plans, and then the post-trip wrap-up.
 
Yes, noisy, but no shake or motion in the scene, also remember these files are seriously reduced for transmission on the internet rather than send 5+mb files. That was hand held with the lens set at about 250mm. Normally that would require a shutter speed of 1/250th of a second to render a shake free picture, since I am limited to ~f 5 at that length (f4 @ 70mm f5.6 @ 400mm) I would have needed 9 more stops worth of light in order to have taken a single exposure image with even that much light on it.

I can hand hold now in much much darker conditions than I could with my Nikons and a 300 or 400mm f2.8 EDIF lenses, that's for sure.

Near as I can see, the camera ISO was set to 6400, accounting for the noise. "Handheld Twilight Mode" really didn't clean it up much.
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If something in the image is moving, capturing several images and averaging the images won't work either- the moving object is still blurred. "Handheld Twilight Mode" just averages the noise somewhat in a bunch of images, which are still taken at high ISO.

Trying to get back more or less on topic, the attached images show the lighting in some of the RAF Museum. I found that, in these areas, no flash was better (second image). It is possible to get reasonable hand-held images- the second image of the same plane was 1/5 second exposure. Conversely, the building where the Sunderland is kept has windows on one side and fill flash helps the images and evens out the lighting.


Actually, Beth (iTravel AKA Woodstock) is the person to discuss both travel & photography as she probably has the most real expertise- see this thread for examples:
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47440
 

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Well my wife decided that it is UK (Scotland, Whales...). Mostly becuase of language.
This is of course subject to change she does that sometimes:wink2:

A country-specific series of books called "Travelers' Tales"
Amelia I can not find any of these on the UK am I missing something? Any other good buts you can think of?

So what do people know about UK?

Here is how we takes trips in the US sometimes. Pick a place to go making no real plans. Then we drive and see what ever we want and when it is night we find someplace to stop. Is this something we can do there?

The differenace is we would have a list of things we would like to do. Then just do what ever we can and save rest for next trip.
 
Well my wife decided that it is UK (Scotland, Whales...). Mostly becuase of language.
This is of course subject to change she does that sometimes:wink2:

So what do people know about UK?

Hi Ron, I am a Brit here on POA, we live just 100 miles south of the Scottish border and 50miles North of the Border with North Wales, oh and just for the record, it's "Wales" without the "H" Sir.;)

Deciding on just visiting the UK will make the trip a little more of a relaxing vacation rather than take in too much of Europe, which usually means you rush around the various cities and see a lot but absorb very little, and only have memories by looking at the photos you will have taken !!

If planning on touring Wales & Scotland, then forget using air or trains, the UK is small enough to tour around by car (Tip: hire a economical car, our gas prices are around $12.00 a gallon and rising weekly!)

Places to visit in Wales ? well the cities are much the same as cities anywhere, in fact Cardiff is not somewhere I would want to visit unless I had business there, but once away from the cities, there are some spectacular scenary and places of interest, Travel from South Wales up into North Wales, once you have visited the places you have marked on your Welsh tour schedule, it will take you no more than around 3 hrs to travel up the Highways and over the border into Scotland, but I would recommend has you are passing through the North of England on your way from North Wales to Scotland, you take a small detour west off the M6 Highway and pop into the Lake District area of the UK. Stunning scenery to see and some historical places to visit such as the home of Poet "William Wordsworth" and take in a steam boat ride around Lake Windermere.

Once in Scotland a trip to Edinburgh is must for tourists, the Castle and Royal Mile are well worth a visit. Once out of Edinburgh head for the Highlands, lots of history, lochs and mountains, you could probably have time to take in a couple of the Islands off the west coast, in particular the Isle of Mull which is only a 30 minute ferry ride across the water (I have a good friend who owns a guest house on Mull - so hey special room rates apply ;))

Both in Wales and in Scotland there are many hotels and smaller guest houses, there are so many you don't really need to book in advance, so you just pick one at the location you wish to spend the night.

If I can help you with any info please feel free to drop me a PM and I will let you have my email and contact details.

Oh, and May is a very good month to plan a visit it is usually a "dry" month before the summer rains...then again this is the UK, so it rains nearly every month..... thats why I have a vacation home in Florida....:lol:

Regards
Allan
 
We flew to Scotland in '08, rented a car (mistake #1 was to think after a rather agonizing 24hr trip with an intnl flight I would be able to hop in a strange car and charge off, on the 'wrong' side the road, stickshift. Needed a few hours rest!). Started at Edinburgh (pron. ed'n-buruh not burg) drove N to Dundee, Aberdeen then straight west to Inverness, Portree, Isle of Skye, Isle of Mull, Tobermory, Oban, Ft William -all northern places, away from the crowds. Heck I will post a ppt.
 
We flew to Scotland in '08, rented a car (mistake #1 was to think after a rather agonizing 24hr trip with an intnl flight I would be able to hop in a strange car and charge off, on the 'wrong' side the road, stickshift.

Heck, we have to set you some sort of challenge when you come over here..... :rofl:
 
Heck, we have to set you some sort of challenge when you come over here..... :rofl:

Hey, the roundabouts were a challenge enough! Must say the locals were extremely tolerant. I recall considerable angst..."do I go now or?"

Here is my slideshow of Scotland:

http://pix.kg/p/757233319310:376952779/scl

It should be public, let me know if you can't see it
 
Hey, the roundabouts were a challenge enough! Must say the locals were extremely tolerant. I recall considerable angst..."do I go now or?"

Here is my slideshow of Scotland:

http://pix.kg/p/757233319310:376952779/scl

It should be public, let me know if you can't see it

Great slide show you have there Dave, I recognize many of the places, especially on Mull, We visit each year when they close the roads on the island to organise a car race ( motor rally) around the island each October.

I have spent many a night in the Macdonald Arms on Main street Tobermory...which has usually ended with a friendly local having to point the wobbly way back to the hotel when one has "sampled" various Single Malts from the top shelf in the bar..... :redface:
 
To see the real Europe, you have to get out of the major cities with a car. Eat in the family owned places, stay in the little hotels.

Rome and Paris are like any big city, but there are things to see in both. That said, I'd trade a day in San Gimingiano or Lucca for a week in Rome.

It takes a mix of hitting museums and historical sites hard with relaxing with the locals in the French countryside or in a Tuscan villa to really get the most out of a trip. One or the other, and you leave a big part of Europe behind.

I like the Rick Steeves guides to find things and good travel routes outside of the major cities. In the cities, you have lots of options for sources.
 
I like the Rick Steeves guides to find things and good travel routes outside of the major cities. In the cities, you have lots of options for sources.

We've been using Rick Steves' books for 20 years when traveling in Europe. I can't recommend his work highly enough. He has never steered us wrong.

Alland, being from that part of the world, knows it well. I'll second the lake country and Edinburgh. Yes, it is touristy, but you'll enjoy it.

If you're not planning on including London in the visit consider booking a flight into Manchester instead. Much more civilized airport, and closer to the northern areas being discussed. I know that Continental and US Air fly into Manchester (did Continental last September and US Air last month).

Have fun. It's a beautiful part of the world.
 
Oh, and May is a very good month to plan a visit it is usually a "dry" month before the summer rains...then again this is the UK, so it rains nearly every month..... thats why I have a vacation home in Florida....:lol:

Regards
Allan

Because everyone knows it doesn't rain in Florida.:rolleyes::D
 
I told my wife I would take her to Europe for our anniversary.
The places we are currently thinking of are in no order.
Paris, Rome, Scotland, Whales.
Scotland & Whales is to see old castles and whats left of old castles.
Paris & Rome we realy did not have any idea just like the idea of going there.
My questions are how long is needed? We are thinking of 7 days there.
A self driving tour or a guided tour?
The only other country we have been in is Canada & Ireland.

My wife and I took our first Europe trip in the Spring of 2009. We did 3 days London, Chunnel to Paris, 3 days Paris, overnight train to Milan, Milan to Cinque Terra, 2 days Cinque, train to Florence, 3 days Florence, train to Milan, overnight by the airport, then back home.

We saw this trip as "check thing out, have fun, decide what is worth seeing again...". We'd actually been saving amex points for 10 years so we were able to use those for airfare and most hotels.

We liked London. I regret not getting into enough museums there.

Paris was nice, went up the Tower, toured the Louvre, walked a lot (incl small guided walking tour in Latin Qtr), but we will probably not go back.

The overnight train was a total waste of money. Not a good nights sleep, not romantic (even with private cabin), but at least we know not to do it again.

Cinque Terra and Sestre Levante were awesome. We want to go back, but I want to see more of Italy, too.

Florence was awesome. Again, we want to go back, but we also want to see more of Italy.

We used Rick Steve's books and did lots of other research. If I recall correctly, the Chunnel train website was where we found a couple of tour ideas....

I think you need to define your mission and then use that to guide your plan. I second the vote for "no car" for mainland Europe on a first trip. However, for Wales and Scotland a car is probably a good idea (we did Ireland in Autumn 2011 and, except for the first 3 days in Dublin, we had a car... Buying the Ireland map set for our Garmin car GPS was a marriage saver :) )

If you are going to move around a lot, make a commitment to pack light. It is possible and totally worth the effort. We planned on one laundry day. For your 7 day trip, you probably would not need to do laundry.

Good Luck and have fun.


-Jim
 
A trip to the UK in May-- oh, my- what fun! Herewith some random thoughts:



Oh, you think they speak English, do you? Are you in for a surprise! Especially in Scotland. You may have to resort to the written word.:D

It'll probably be chilly, but that's ok- the woolen goods are lovely- a great excuse to buy a special warm sweater.

Seriously: Bone up on your Brit Lit and your history... it will add so much to your enjoyment and understanding. Even kiddy-lit. What fun London was for me, reciting little poems from my childhood favorite, A.A. Milne.

The footpaths around the lakes in the Lake District--(think Wordsworth and his buddies!) are lovely, and the villages, even the touristy ones, are so pretty. Some of the pubs have food that's beyond excellent, and I have fond memories of warming our toes by a fireplace in a half-timbered inn 300 years old, and sipping brandy after a fine supper.

The flowers and gardens will be spectacular then, and nobody does gardens like they do in the UK. The public gardens and the gardens of the big historic houses are eye-popping, but all over England, villages have tours open to the public of private gardens that are just wonderful, some lavish, some tiny jewels, all tended with imagination and devotion. I think the National Trust puts out an annual guide book with the schedule, if that appeals to you. Maybe it's Google-able, for that matter. Speaking of which, almost anything with a National Trust sign by the road will be worth stopping to take a peek at- the NT also rent historic or otherwise notable vacation cottages in spectacular settings, and some are quite reasonably priced. Check it out and see if anything fits your budget and your schedule.

You may luck into a big cricket match-- see if you can find a local fan to explain the game to you. And then you try to explain it to somebody else. VERY funny.:confused::dunno::wink2:

There's a small town in Wales that's famous for its used book stores, Hay-on-Wye, IIRC. We spent a whole misty morning browsing through treasures.

Check out the concert schedules- many of the churches have organ recitals and chamber music performances on a regular basis, and often they're free. If you're feeling flush, and you'll be nearby, do try now to get tickets to a Royal Shakespeare Company play at Stratford upon Avon. The parents of our English exchange student took us to see King Lear, and it still, many years later, stands out as the single most goose-bumpingly amazing performance I've ever seen.

I didn't see a specific Travelers' Tales Guides book to recommend, but many of them cover a wide range of experiences, which will get you in the mood for off-beat adventure.

I liked the honey-colored villages of the Cotswolds and the funny place names. Also loved the drive along the coasts of Devon and Cornwall. And wandering around Oxford thinking of the marvelous writers who called it home.

I always got stuck with all the driving- ("Here. You're left-handed-- YOU figure it out" was how that discussion went. Worked fine, so long as I spoke to myself out loud for the first few minutes of every morning starting out. "This is a RIGHT turn across oncoming traffic. Look left.:yikes:" ) The fearsome round-abouts weren't bad-- we just kept going around in circles until we decided which exit we wanted. The smaller the car you get, the happier you'll be on those beautiful, but VERY narrow back roads.

Watch out for the gypsies begging outside major tourist traps. You do not want a flower, or whatever they try to press upon you. They can be very rude and aggressive. Other than that, the people you'll meet will be uncommonly gracious and hospitable.

Lucky you! You'll have a splendid time.
 
Because everyone knows it doesn't rain in Florida.:rolleyes::D

Well of course it rains in Florida, the difference is when in Florida we have a pretty good idea the weather forecast will be pretty much accurate when planning activities such as a day out at the beach or flying ect.

In the UK, we only really know what the weather will be doing when we get up in the morning and look out of the window....for some reason our "meteorologists" on this side of the pond rely on the crystal ball method of forecasting..... :rolleyes:
 
MY buddy in Scotland once commented: "We have 3 months of winter, and 9 months of bad weather."

When someone up there says - just go around the corner, the weather will be different, they aren't kidding.

I drove around the Isle of Skye, http://www.skye.co.uk/, http://www.isleofskye.com/, and the local weather went from sun to overcast to rain, repeat, all within minutes during that trip. You could get out and walk around in the sun, drive 1/2 mile into the rain, drive another 1/2 mile into the sun, and do that all day.
 
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Oh, you think they speak English, do you? Are you in for a surprise! Especially in Scotland. You may have to resort to the written word.:D
You are the second person that told me that about Scotland. We noticed that in Ireland too the accent got stronger the farther out we drove.

I always got stuck with all the driving- ("Here. You're left-handed-- YOU figure it out" was how that discussion went. Worked fine, so long as I spoke to myself out loud for the first few minutes of every morning starting out. "This is a RIGHT turn across oncoming traffic. Look left.:yikes:" ) The fearsome round-abouts weren't bad-- we just kept going around in circles until we decided which exit we wanted. The smaller the car you get, the happier you'll be on those beautiful, but VERY narrow back roads.
I have drove on the left before when we were in Ireland and their back roads are very narrow too.
With the round about we have one in my home town now. It is amazing how many americans can not figure them out.
The problem with small cars is I am 6'2 and around 280 lbs. I really do not ffit in alot os small cars.

Check it out and see if anything fits your budget and your schedule.
Budget hmm maybe I should think about that:D
We are trying to deside if we should buy our plane tickets now before gas prices go up or if we should take our chances. I know which ever way I go I ussaly get it wrong:mad2:

We did order a Rick Steves' book from Amazon last night. My wife is planing on going to the library some time next week to see what they have. I am sure we will end up with buying more than the one book before we are done.
 
Regarding buying air tickets, the USA/UK routes are generally quite busy, so I don't think hanging on for last minute bargains work these days.

We are always looking for seats (four times a year to visit our vacation home in Florida), and the best deals we get are the ones where we book the earliest in advance of the flight date we want.
 
Nice pictures Dave. We spent a few nights at the keeper's cottage at lighthouse under the Skye bridge.
We've been to Scotland 5 times and am headed that way again soon. A couple of more weeks on the mainland, then the Orkney's and the Shetlands (by ferry). My trip planner and traveling partner in crime has us going all over the place. By far, our easiest trip was Boston to Amsterdam to Glasgow. Our worst was through Manchester as a "technical" stop. But going through Heathrow was a close second.
I had no problem driving on the opposite side of the road nor with the roundabouts; probably a good thing too with putting 1,500 miles a week on the hire.
There are a couple of aviation museums worth a visit. The one in East Lothian even has a Concorde. Montrose is more of a WWII memorial but is worth a visit.
Most of the places we stay in are booked through the National Scottish Trust. They acquire properties of historic interest, referb and rehab them, and turn them into self catering cottages. We've also stayed in a few B&Bs; having some of the most wonderful breakfasts on the planet.
Yup. I'd recommend Scotland. Dave's pictures do a great job showcasing the scenery but to see it for real.... Wow!
 
Budget hmm maybe I should think about that:D
We are trying to deside if we should buy our plane tickets now before gas prices go up or if we should take our chances. I know which ever way I go I ussaly get it wrong:mad2:

1) Summer fares are always higher. Especially this year to pretty much anywhere in the UK with the Olympics. The other matter is reduced capacity - the airlines continue to reduce capacity pushing fares up.

2) I'd buy when I see a price that's "reasonable". If you're OK with coach, anything < $900 RT per person (all-in pricing, including tax and fuel surcharge [so-called YQ surcharge]) for late spring/summer is worth considering. More likely than not it's going up.

3) If you have/plan to use frequent flyer points, it's getting tougher to do at the "low" redemption levels. Likewise upgrades. Some airlines tend to open more seats the week before travel, but that makes planning difficult and compromises your ability to purchase tickets at a good fare.

We did order a Rick Steves' book from Amazon last night. My wife is planing on going to the library some time next week to see what they have. I am sure we will end up with buying more than the one book before we are done.

Rick Steves is OK - I have a book or two of his. Personal preference of mine is to buy guidebooks for the maps & not so much for the texts. I do more exploring & love to find things "off the guidebooks" because guidebook highlights tend to be more crowded. Yeah, there are some places you just have to go (like Eiffel Tower, the Forum in Rome, etc), but the best places are off the beaten path.

Some of my best trips were most memorable because I either traveled with others that had some experiences in the destination, or I found a way to meet locals. (Example: a trip to Geneva many years ago with a business partner and his wife that had been there before led to side trips to some small towns and mountain tops that were best known to locals, but had fabulous views.)

Regarding buying air tickets, the USA/UK routes are generally quite busy, so I don't think hanging on for last minute bargains work these days.

It depends on the particulars. I just got back from a long weekend in Paris for which I paid US $750 (plus the luxury tax on the upgrade to biz class). I was in London last month (booked 3-4 weeks out) for a similar price. Picking an alternate airport (like LCY or Gatwick or Manchester) can often result in better pricing. One really needs to shop it & use services like ITA, FareCompare, Kayak, or one of the other services that can provide alternatives & trends. I flew into Brussels one time and took EasyJet up to London at considerable savings relatiive to a non-stop. And I think IcelandAir still can offer some bargains if you live near one of their US cities.

But avoid RyanAir at all costs.
 
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