NA Message bomb techniques

Discussion in 'Technical Corner' started by Let'sgoflying!, Nov 27, 2016.

  1. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    13,428
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
    Is there any way to....

    Often I am out of range of a cell signal (or wifi) and think of something that needs to go out.
    I'd like to compose a message and set it to go off, as soon as a signal is acquired without further intervention on my part.

    Right now, imessage will fail the message after 10 minutes (I will lose interest and not watch the progress bar) and I often don't notice it failed. (so, a day later I learn important info was not shared)
    With email, it will go to the outbox and I similarly won't notice it didn't go; it will sit in Outbox forever with no notification that I um, notice.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    36,150
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    DenverPilot
    Unfortunately the answer is to get off of iOS. Most SMS and email clients behave better.
     
  3. SkyDog58

    SkyDog58 En-Route

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2015
    Messages:
    4,499
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    SkyDog58
    Sounds like a problem that I am glad I don't have. There is practically nothing to me that can't wait to go out later if I can't send it now.
     
  4. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    13,428
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
    Tell me how Nate.
    I should mention I don't plan to discard the phone yet. And if I take ios off the iphone, it would have to be relatively easy (I am not a techie like you guys) to replace with something else. Plus there are all my apps that I don't want to lose my data, hopefully you have workable suggestions there.
     
  5. John221us

    John221us En-Route

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3,519
    Location:
    Rocklin, CA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    John
    You can turn off iMessage. Go to settings, scroll down to Messages and turn it off. make sure SMS is on when iMessage is not available. The advantage of iMessage is that it works if SMS is not available (over IP), such as when you are on a commercial flight with Wifi.
     
  6. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    36,150
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    DenverPilot
    Um, I was saying "there's not a way on an iPhone". In other words, replace iOS and the whole iPhone with an Android device.

    Apple sucks at handling network outages on iOS. Heck, the phone usually thinks a -118 RSSI LTE signal (to weak to use) is better than a -90 3G signal (works fine but slower) and will cling to LTE for dear life. Horrible band switching algorithm.

    On iOS, if you're in and out of coverage, the airplane mode button to convince the phone to "do things again" when you go back into network coverage, is about all you've got for forcing things.

    In the case of the email client you also have to open it (if it's not open) and refresh something in that particular account to get it to try again on stuck emails in the outbox.
     
  7. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    36,150
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    DenverPilot
    This is also true. I've seen scenarios where SMS can easily get a message through and iMessage via Apple's servers can't.
     
  8. JGoodish

    JGoodish Cleared for Takeoff

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,131
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    JGoodish
    Not sure what version of iOS you're on, but recent versions have an option to use SMS when iMessage is unavailable (activate in iMessage Settings). When iMessage is available, it's much better than SMS for a multitude of reasons, so I would not recommend that you log out of iMessage.

    With that being said, I rarely have an issue with iMessage, but I usually don't send text messages when I have no service.


    JKG
     
  9. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    13,428
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
    this is not about sms vs imessage.

    This is when I have zero signal.

    I want to compose my world-altering, vitally important word string while I am remembering it.....then put into a queue for later dispatch, once a signal makes itself available.

    Ie you are at 14000' over OilPatchnMesquiteBush, Texas and remember you need to tell someone As Soon As You Land, to feed the cat - and if you don't make that message now, you will surely forget (and said cats will attack your ankles when you return)
     
  10. JGoodish

    JGoodish Cleared for Takeoff

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,131
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    JGoodish
    I think that we all understand your question, but you're asking for functionality which is likely outside the intended scope of most text messaging applications. Not sure whether there are apps to address your request, because I generally only text folks when I need to reach them in the present (which obviously requires some type of connectivity.)

    Best alternative that I can suggest is to set reminders (using the Reminders app) to trigger at a certain time or location.


    JKG
     
  11. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    13,428
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
    Thanks.
    (I understand "No can do"!)
    Many of my want list items eventually come to fruition...this one may not because I suspect the people working on such software are never out of range, and are unaware of the problem.
     
  12. John221us

    John221us En-Route

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3,519
    Location:
    Rocklin, CA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    John
    I have experienced this. It is annoying, but you can tap on the failure message and retry (requires an action). It is possible that SMS will be more reliable in your case. You could try what I described above and disable iMessage, while allowing SMS. I haven't tried this, because iMessage has some advantages for me (like working over Wifi when cell service is not available). The allowing SMS when iMessage isn't available while leaving iMessage on, generally doesn't work for me. If data service is unavailable or unreliable, iMessage just seems to fail (though you can retry). However, if the recipient is a an Android, it seems smart enough to send it SMS.
     
  13. PaulMillner

    PaulMillner Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011
    Messages:
    212
    Location:
    Berkeley, CA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Paul Millner
    I think WhatsApp behaves the way you desire...

    Paul
     
  14. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    13,428
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
    hmm I do WhatsApp, maybe I can convince some recipients to load that.
     
  15. gkainz

    gkainz Final Approach

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    6,959
    Location:
    Arvada, CO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Greg Kainz
    write it on a post-it note, snap a photo. Send photo via text when signal acquired. :)
     
    Let'sgoflying! likes this.