[NA] Homeowners Assn violations end result jail time

EdFred said:
How many cars/projects before it becomes a problem? Can he run a junkyard?
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My neighbor has a 1976 Ford parts truck, a non-running 90s Jeep GC, a running but non-drivable 1960s Dodge Polara. He also had a small school bus for a bit. The existence of those vehicles doesn't affect me at all, and they were all in the driveway space beside his house less than 10 yds from the property line. Again, some people have a need to see all of the property around them be pristine and without blemish. I don't have that need. A junk yard is a commercial business which is a different story and can be controlled by covenants if needed.

He also has a 1965 Mustang and a 1968 Mercury Cougar in his garage as well as two new EV Dodge Chargers he and his wife daily drive. At any one time he has at least 6 vehicles in his driveway between the non-running stuff and his kids' vehicles. I don't sleep differently at night.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Did Dodge REALLY DO THAT?!? :rofl:
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Lol they did. Then they promptly discontinued it! Apparently people who buy Dodge don't particularly care for EVs so they haven't been selling hardly at all. My neighbor is a mechanic at a Dodge dealership and apparently they sold it to him at a ridiculously low price just to get rid of them. It even has a fake big-block start up sound (able to be turned off).

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Daleandee said:
Moved out of that nightmare several years ago, never to return. Admittedly a well run HOA (if there is such a thing) can help maintain property values but most times it's folks with money wanting power to go with it that make the rest of the community miserable ...
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my friend bought a house in a HOA and his value declined kust like the rest of us.

I would never buy into an HOA... they can put a lien on your property and even force a sale.... all for what?? they cannot guarantee values will drop.
 
Baked Potato said:
That doesn't seem, well, ethical! I've wondered if it would be worth it to offload the work to a third party (I'm not a board member but my wife has been at times) but if this is how these companies operate then no thanks.

We all see the abusive HOA presidents and their prey in the news, but the types of things that mine care the most about (ensuring that visitor spaces are readily
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luvflyin said:
Did you really mean nobody complains ‘anymore’
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Not sure. I’ve only been in the neighborhood for 8 years. No complaints in my time here.
 
luvflyin said:
So that complainer who got shot was before your time
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We literally had this happen in our HOA neighborhood. Old guy across the street from the park appointed himself in charge of enforcing the no-skateboarding rule on the b-ball court. Young military guy was watching his kids ride and took offense. Old guy brandished a gun. A struggle ensured and the young guy was shot to death. Now we have 3 fatherless kids and an old guy in jail. What a waste.
 
Before I was 10, my Father taught me never mess with anyone who is in possession of any firearm.

I suspect the soldier's kids had ben warned about the regulation of no skateboarding several times, and ignored the old man.

That soldier-parent used terrible judgement, presumably attempting to disarm the old guy. He should have sent his kids home after forbidding them skateboarding illegaly.

This can be an expensive problem. Our church had over $10,000 damage to our limestone front steps and limestone retaining walls on each side. We caught two boys after calling the Police, who identified them by holding them until they called parents to get out.

We sued the parents for a portion of the repairs. The Judge threw out the case, we needed 2X3 foot signs at each end of the retaining wall plus each side of the stairs, warning against skateboarding.

The kids continued to board until we had pieces of steel mortered into key joints, designed to destroy the skateboards trucks.
 
geezer said:
This can be an expensive problem. Our church had over $10,000 damage to our limestone front steps and limestone retaining walls on each side. We caught two boys after calling the Police, who identified them by holding them until they called parents to get out.

We sued the parents for a portion of the repairs. The Judge threw out the case, we needed 2X3 foot signs at each end of the retaining wall plus each side of the stairs, warning against skateboarding.

The kids continued to board until we had pieces of steel mortered into key joints, designed to destroy the skateboards trucks.
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Was that really the best solution, in the long run? Now there are kids and their parents who are probably turned off by church and people of faith and will be for the rest of their lives.

Just suggesting that you consider the big picture, and maybe seek a friendlier solution. But I wasn't there, so maybe there's more to the story that I don't know.
 
geezer said:
This can be an expensive problem. Our church had over $10,000 damage to our limestone front steps and limestone retaining walls on each side. We caught two boys after calling the Police, who identified them by holding them until they called parents to get out.

We sued the parents for a portion of the repairs. The Judge threw out the case, we needed 2X3 foot signs at each end of the retaining wall plus each side of the stairs, warning against skateboarding.

The kids continued to board until we had pieces of steel mortered into key joints, designed to destroy the skateboards trucks.
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In a civil trial? How can a judge throw out a civil action? Criminal trial would not be the proper venue.

I would think booby traps opens the church to way more liability.
 
I live on one residential airport which is relatively low drama compared to the next one over. Fortunately, the residents here are mostly sane and they don't elect the crackpots and power hungry to the board. I've been the treasurer for about nine years now and on the board for six. Most of our budget goes for runway maintenance and private (taxiable) roads maintenance. The key to this and the previous HOAs I was involved in is don't give them money that can be used for shenanigans. My previous HOA was a few blocks from Reston, Virginia which has a massive Reston Association as the HOA. Our general sentiment when someone tried to get activist in the HOA was "If we wanted to live in Reston, we would have bought in Reston."
 
SoonerAviator said:
Most all of that can be addressed via covenants without needing HOA busy bodies. Carrying about unlicensed vehicles/maintenance, yard signs, or flags is the stuff of Karens.
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In fact, we almost bought a home at an airstrip, and that's how the issues were covered, with covenants.
 
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