MSA at KBUF

[PilotRPI]

For the ILS 32 approach, off what is the MSA based? It looks like a compass locator in the circle, but I don't see one on the approach.

Also, what is MSA GB?

https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1902/pdf/00065IL32.PDF

 

[PilotRPI]

Dug in a bit more, and looks like GB is the LOM on the rwy 05 approach. Find it odd they would use a nav location not on that particular plate. On another note, the missed approach fix is in Canada. Am I OK to just fly over there, or would I need anything in particular?

 

[bobmrg]

For the ILS 32 approach, off what is the MSA based? It looks like a compass locator in the circle, but I don't see one on the approach.

Also, what is MSA GB?

https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1902/pdf/00065IL32.PDF

The question is academic...the MSA is for use in emergencies only and plays no part in the approach procedure. IOW, who cares?

Bob Gardner

 

[jordane93]

Here’s the Jepp chart. It shows the outer maker

 

[EdFred]

I don't know why, but I really dislike Jeppesen plates. Almost like they jam too much info on them.

 

[PPC1052]

I don't know why, but I really dislike Jeppesen plates. Almost like they jam too much info on them.

That and the 1950s/1960s sans serif font.

 

[aterpster]

Here’s the Jepp chart. It shows the outer maker

That's an airline tailored chart.

 

[jordane93]

That's an airline tailored chart.

Does the non airline tailored chart not show PLAZZ?

 

[IK04]

When did they begin putting the MSA sectors on the plan view? Clutter!

 

[aterpster]

Does the non airline tailored chart not show PLAZZ?

The Jeppesen non-airline, non-tailored chart: yes
The FAA chart: No

 

[jordane93]

The Jeppesen non-airline, non-tailored chart: yes
The FAA chart: No

Weird.

 

[aterpster]

Weird.

PLAZZ is not on source. GB is. FAA charting must follow FAA source.

 

[PilotRPI]

The question is academic...the MSA is for use in emergencies only and plays no part in the approach procedure. IOW, who cares?

Bob Gardner

It was academic indeed. Is an airport for my xc for my checkride and wanted to have all bases covered. Turns out I think I overstudied just a tad.

 

[aterpster]

It was academic indeed. Is an airport for my xc for my checkride and wanted to have all bases covered. Turns out I think I overstudied just a tad.

It's worth mentioning that MSAs are operational altitudes in many countries. It pays to know that before flying in a particular country.

 

[Busflyer]

I don't know why, but I really dislike Jeppesen plates. Almost like they jam too much info on them.

I feel the same way about the FAA charts. All what you’re used to.

 

[IK04]

I don't know why, but I really dislike Jeppesen plates. Almost like they jam too much info on them.

I feel the same way about the FAA charts. All what you’re used to.

I like them both. It beats the old stone tablet format...