That surprised me also. I’d have expected a lot more.
I figured I had 3 comments. AOPA, EAA and my personal one.
Gave up Geekdom when I met my wife to be after graduation from HS and before Engineering School. She demanded it. Saved me from a life of ridicule
Sport Pilot Privileges Expanded (Under MOSAIC) Medical Certification Not Required
PA-28-140 Eligibility Summary| Requirement | Meets Criteria? |
|---|---|
| ≤ 4 seats | Yes |
| Max 2 occupants during operation | Yes (pilot + 1) |
| Stall speed ≤ 59 knots CAS | Yes (~55 knots) |
| Driver’s license in lieu of FAA medical | Yes |
Are you sure? Maybe for a 172, but with LSAs opening up to complex retracts.....?
Good point.
If you have a PPL you had to have night flight training, so wouldn't the PPL cover the training requirement and act as a de facto endoresement?Good point.
Speaking of transition training, the new rule pertaining to VFR night flight for sport pilot is focused on the SP pilot "moving up" to night flight. The requirement for night training with a log book endorsement makes sense.
However, the PPL who is "stepping down" to SP, letting his medical or Basic Med cert expire, will need the same training and endorsements to fly VFR night. Even though he may have logged 20 hours of night flight in the last 30 days and has a logbook with 100's of hours of night flight.
I would think. But as it is written, there is no specific provision for that.
IDK, Since we would be operating under Sport Pilot privileges the letter of the rule for SP privilege prevails?
Yes.
This. And, some insurance companies are already requiring medicals for older pilots even though the regs allow basicmed or SP/DL.
No. The endorsement shows you have the required training. A PP certificate shows you have the training. And, even before MOSAIC the FAA has already clarified that a PP or higher doesn't need any of the endorsements a certificated SP would need (other than tailwheel, high performance, or complex, which the PP would need anyway).
I'm struggling to see what having or not having a medical certificate has to do with operating complex or retracts. The underwriters are already going to whack you pretty hard for those things if you have low hours, lack of experience, and advancing age. Take the case of a PP who's under retirement age with complex and HP time... he's going to let his medical expire and fly with SP privileges, day VFR only and under 10K. People have been flying for 20 years or so without medical certificates and the record has been pretty good for accidents and incidents caused by medical issues.
Probably. I'm guessing there may initially be a couple of insurers who will resist issuing policies for SP flying complex, HP, retracts, and so on - and there will be several who don't, and eventually competitive forces and statistics will even things out. It just feels to me like the FAA and insurance underwriters have about the same risk appetite.
As if they have'nt had months if not years to figure it out already. If the're "Scrambling", they shouldn't be in the business in the first place.
If they didn’t know what the final rule would look like, they couldn’t properly prepare in advance.
IMNSHO, not much changed for Pilots except the stall speed. The basics of expanded opportunities for Sport Pilots were essentially the same from the initial to the final from my perspective. Prudent management would study each potential tweak like stall speed, night flying or similar prior to a final rule. If you wait for the final final final to decide what to do, good luck. YMMV.
My experience is that “prudent management” doesn’t generally spend money to study and develop a plan for something that isn’t set in stone.
Likewise, but my experience with other people making those decisions hasn’t reflected that.
Which of the 717 pages of the doc defines what a Super Thread is?
That's kinda what I'm guessing.
Sigh... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoPresti_Fury
When my older son was about 2 or 3, he said "Let's go airport! I buy daddy King Air." If he comes through on that eventually, I'd say I got that return on my investment.
Stole it... And then improved upon it to the extent that their tech is better than ours. They may steal, but they're not stupid.
Double sigh. I dug a little more and answered my own question.
However, the PPL who is "stepping down" to SP, letting his medical or Basic Med cert expire, will need the same training and endorsements to fly VFR night. Even though he may have logged 20 hours of night flight in the last 30 days and has a logbook with 100's of hours of night flight.
How old are you? I expect that insurers may have different requirements based on age. They may be skittish until the new LSA changes have played out for a few years and they have more claims data to crunch on.
64, and not the youngest of the four of us. Nobody's hit 80 yet, though.
I had a $10K deposit with LoPresti for a SwiftFury. Sad that they never got it to market. On the up side, at least when the project folded, they returned all of the deposits (with interest). Went toward my eventual airplane purchase in 2001.Double sigh. I dug a little more and answered my own question.
I remember Corky Fornof flying the Swift Fury on the airshow circuit not overly long ago - 10-15 years ago. At that point it still sounded like they were going to try and produce it.
Alas, the LoPresti family donated the Fury, N217LP, to the Swift Museum Foundation in 2019 and stipulated that it not be flown. They have also returned all of the original Swift factory tooling that they had on loan from the Foundation. It will not go into production.
I sure hope your medical opinions aren't arbitrary. I certainly wouldn't tell your malpractice carrier that.
October 28, 2024 - 90 days after posting in the federal register which has already occurred.
I graduated from medical school in 1989 and have never been subject of lawsuit or any disciplinary action. My malpractice carrier couldn't be happier with my performance over the past 36 years.
(Ahem) the gentleman’s degree is in medicine, not english.
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