More than soft drinks and nuts available on this airline

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    @mscard88 will vote for her for FA of the year.

    Hell, so do I!!
     
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    Yeah but mine would be for different reasons. Or maybe not. :drool:
     
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    Yeah, I’m not familiar with the background behind this obviously, but I sure wouldn’t allow my child to be breastfed by a stranger, regardless of the situation.
     
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    I suspect the reverse is possible too.
    Not to suppress the wanton display of feminine bodily parts or anything.
     
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    A nursing mother nursing another child is commonly done. Less so these days in America, but in that part of the world it's still pretty common. As a father to 3 kids who were breast fed I can say that the lewd comments above by a few of you disgust me. Despite belief by some who are asking to get warnings with points, that FA was using her breasts for their intended function.

    Y'all get to stop it. Now.
     
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    Sorry if my comment crossed the line. Not sure how it would’ve but anyhow, I apologize if it did.

    I do standby my opinion though, as I would have to be absolutely hard pressed to have a total stranger breastfeed my child. I just don’t like the sounds of that. Maybe it’s just me though..
     
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    This sort of scenario is one of the benefits of breast feeding your kids. No worries about running out of formula since the production facility is right there (not judging parents who use formula and there are cases where some women can have legitimate supply issues). It does seem poor planning on the mom's part to have not brought enough formula. I know when my kids were still nursing, it was a lot more convenient on the whole. Of course, the other side of it meant that they were (literally) attached to my wife and thus I wasn't very helpful for feeding them.

    Whether or not to let someone else (especially a stranger) breast feed your kids is another question and another risk, but a personal decision. It never came up for us fortunately, however my wife always over-prepares and the kids were never far from "the tap". But when you've got an infant who's hungry and screaming (especially on a plane surrounded by people giving you angry looks), I suspect that a lot of moms would make that same decision, especially in other cultures and when traveling alone. There's a panic instinct that women have linked to the sound of their babies crying.

    Best thing: always make sure you have food for your kids.
     
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    Yeah. I have nothing whatsoever against the idea of breastfeeding. Like you say, it’s a natural female function, but I believe that it should only take place with the mother. I just don’t like the idea of a stranger out in public breastfeeding my child as it does open up the possibility of several risk factors, which was primarily the idea that I was agreeing with in Dave’s post.

    Again, hope you didn’t take it the wrong way as coming across lewd or indecent. Just my own views on the subject.

    :)
     
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    Intended by whom?

    Because your wife breastfed, people can’t take a lighthearted view of it? What separates POA rules from Ted’s rules? It seems like they might have gotten confused here.
     
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    Does this mean that I shouldn’t make a PoA-style “more right udder” quip? I will, of course, abide by your wishes.
     
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    It was a remarkable kindness. Heartwarming.
     
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    Is it medically safe for the infant who is routinely taking formula to get a dose of milk from a stranger?

    Sure, it's better than starvation, but how much flight time was remaining? Why wasn't there any good old fashioned cow milk available?

    [Note: I have no children and was bottle fed. Now I drink out of cans more than bottles]
     
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    I suppose ordering a white russian is out of the question?
     
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    Boys will be boys and all that. Regarding surrogate nursing, very common, Google "wet nurse".
     
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    Medically there's nothing wrong with a mother breast feeding another child. As noted previously, nurse maids were common practice prior to formula. But as @Let'sgoflying! noted, there are risks involved, albeit small. While I think most nursing moms who made that offer wouldn't do so if they were infected with a disease, they also may not know and inadvertently transmit something.

    Someone else could probably speak better to the medical consequences of an infant going without food for [insert period of time]. Not knowing how long the flight would be, hard to say.

    So long as you don't soil any of our rugs. They tie the room together, man.

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    The MC is painfully aware of that. However, PoA members should note that the RoC do specifically state that we are an inclusive community. Part of this includes not making statements that would qualify as "locker room talk" and make this place seem a boys club. Turning an article about breastfeeding into an excuse to drool over cleavage falls under that category. This isn't Ted's rules, this is MC rules and in line with previous enforcement.
     
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    I agree with Ted. This is no different than borrowing someone elses sandwich, or a bottle of water. There is no guarantee that it is perfectly safe. Breast milk may be a bodily fluid, but it is not a waste product. In fact, the human body starves itself to produce more nutrients in the milk. This is how humanity survived for millions of years. Formula milk is a recent invention.
     
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    You responded personally as a disgusted father, not as a moderator. If you were acting as a moderator, it should have been handled with a warning and a thread lock. Or, whatever the normal process is. Not with your moralizing on the benefits of breastfeeding.
     
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    This thread is bizarre.
     
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    Aww, shucks, folks.

    Just be nice.

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    You don’t know my mom.
     
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    On behalf of the poor passengers sitting within earshot of that screaming child, I'm glad the attendant was there to contribute!

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    Oh come on! Now you’re just milking it for all it’s worth.
     
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    I could totally see my wife latching our baby to another mother's teet. The Females have a way of communicating with each other that us males cannot understand. I think they use mental telepathy and chakra universally. They'd have a 1000 page conversation in like 2 seconds. If I was present, I would have no say in this matter because I'm the Man and have asserted as much.

    To the comment, "why not good old fashioned cow's milk?" How weird is that? That is a new beverage in comparison. Why drink milk from another species? Why not chimpanzee or whale milk? Where does the insanity stop?

    And, this is the most bizarre string of posts I have ever read. I, as a passenger on airline planes, am very thankful for this wet nurse's generosity. And forth, it seems as though ever other country except in the Murica, (and places where women are not seen) boobs are routinely seen doing there job because, we're mammals.

    My $.02 I needed to get off my chest.
     
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    No, just trying to make a clean breast of the affair.
     
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    This thread is too “revealing”.
     
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    Now you’re just crying over spilled....

    Oh, never mind.
     
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    Getting serious, there's some good lessons in this thread. The FA wasn't exclusive, she included everyone.

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