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Simply:

What's the best way to determine if someone served in the military?

Or, is it possible?
 
Military.com has a pretty comprehensive list of service members by rank and classification.
 
A DD-214 is the "official" record of service after separation.
 
Yes, but you can't look up DD 214's publically, that I'm aware of.
 
I didn't realize online look-up was the question. I thought he just wanted to know the best way to determine if someone served.
 
Military.com has a pretty comprehensive list of service members by rank and classification.

I'll have to check that out, but for us older folks, could be an issue. Many Saint Louis were destroyed in a fire years ago. I know, some of mine were affected. I'd ask for the DD-214 as has been suggested. Then, figure out how to read it or ask anyone with some experience. Lots of abbreviations and acronyms.

Best, Dave
 
How exactly do you open the database for a search?

You have to be a member now but you can use a "Buddy Finder" function to pull them up by name. You can also search by unit affiliation but there is no automatic unit affiliation unless that person has signed up and manually entered it.

I don't know how far back the records go, or what their source is. I'm in there, and when I originally signed up my rank and MOS showed. Now only my name, branch and veteran/prior service shows.
 
If they are currently on Active Duty, and you know their first/last name, SSN, and birth date, you can plug it in here and get confirmation: https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/scra/scraHome.do

If they are currently serving on active duty (doesn't include Guard or Reservists that have not been activated), you don't need to enter an active duty status date.

If their active duty service dates were after 1985, and you know a date range when they were on active duty (say, from 01/01/2001 - 12/31/2007) then you can enter any date within that range (an active duty status date) to get a confirmation.

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NOTE: If they served in the National Guard or Reserves, but were NOT called up for active duty, they will not be in that database. If they were in the Guard or Reserves, you will need to know a date that they were serving on active duty orders (active duty status date).
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You can also send a request under the Freedom Of Information Act (including any/all information you know about the person you are trying to confirm), using the link edmeis3 provided above. which will take considerably longer.
 
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You have to be a member now but you can use a "Buddy Finder" function to pull them up by name. You can also search by unit affiliation but there is no automatic unit affiliation unless that person has signed up and manually entered it.

I don't know how far back the records go, or what their source is. I'm in there, and when I originally signed up my rank and MOS showed. Now only my name, branch and veteran/prior service shows.
When I signed up on Military.com, I manually entered all of my info. I'm not aware of any official service database on there.
 
When I signed up on Military.com, I manually entered all of my info. I'm not aware of any official service database on there.

I don't know their source, but both myself and others I could remember when I served were in there, and not by virtue of me signing up. I entered no information when I signed up other than my name.

You might try searching for yourself and see if you find a duplicate record.
 
I've been on military.com for a few years now ... but buddy Finder did not find me.
 
I'll have to check that out, but for us older folks, could be an issue. Many Saint Louis were destroyed in a fire years ago. I know, some of mine were affected. I'd ask for the DD-214 as has been suggested. Then, figure out how to read it or ask anyone with some experience. Lots of abbreviations and acronyms.

Best, Dave

DD-214 is pretty transparent. It is the official release from service form. You can't be released if you didn't serve.

The form will also list how long the individual served and where, type of discharge (honorable, etc.).

I just had to dig mine out for a new employer, so I am freshly familiar with the form. Under certain circumstances (still trying to find out what that means) time served on the DD-214 translates into retirement credit.

-Skip
 
Simply:

What's the best way to determine if someone served in the military?

Or, is it possible?

If they are active duty or retired. Call the World Wide Locator.
Each branch has their own phone number, you can google it to get the number for that particular branch of the service.
If they are active duty, they will tell you their base and unit.
If they are retired, they will give you an address you can mail a letter to and it will be forwarded them to where ever their retirement checks are being sent to.
They won't give you the address, but they will forward it for you.
 
And thanks to the supreme court, passing yourself off as a veteran is freedom of speech. We're going to see lots of people wanting to verify what others are spuwing.
Where did the MoH go? Those two nice shiny silver stars?
 
And thanks to the supreme court, passing yourself off as a veteran is freedom of speech. We're going to see lots of people wanting to verify what others are spuwing.
Where did the MoH go? Those two nice shiny silver stars?

How about, not important enough for some national enforcement action. I suspect in the end, fakers will be weeded out eventually.
 
You have to be a member now but you can use a "Buddy Finder" function to pull them up by name. You can also search by unit affiliation but there is no automatic unit affiliation unless that person has signed up and manually entered it.

I don't know how far back the records go, or what their source is. I'm in there, and when I originally signed up my rank and MOS showed. Now only my name, branch and veteran/prior service shows.

I'm pretty sure they only show folks who've joined. I just joined and before completing my profile, tried to find myself in their system... not there.
 
Now that all of the suggestions are out of the way, I'll ask the question everyone is dying to hear the answer to:

What prompted this thread? :popcorn:
 
How about, not important enough for some national enforcement action. I suspect in the end, fakers will be weeded out eventually.
I just read today the Pentagon wants to set up some sort of database to list recipients of higher-level decorations (i.e. MOH, silver star, etc) and back-date it as far back as they can. Personally, I'm glad they're looking at a way to get around SCOTUS's decision.
As to the original question, I've asked baited/loaded test questions before. Like asking the 19 year old green beret at the bar where he went to basic. "Fort Bragg" was the wrong answer...
OTOH, I know far less about the other branches so it's a tad trickier to spot a faker, but generally I look at the attitude of the individual. If they're wearing it on their sleeve, I assume they're full of *****. YMMV.
 
What prompted this thread? :popcorn:

As you probably suspect it was prompted by a local blow hard who claims to be a vet. He's claiming he's a marine vet who served in 'nam. I seriously doubt the claim. I'd give 3 to 1 odds in fact.
 
I just read today the Pentagon wants to set up some sort of database to list recipients of higher-level decorations (i.e. MOH, silver star, etc) and back-date it as far back as they can. Personally, I'm glad they're looking at a way to get around SCOTUS's decision.
As to the original question, I've asked baited/loaded test questions before. Like asking the 19 year old green beret at the bar where he went to basic. "Fort Bragg" was the wrong answer...
OTOH, I know far less about the other branches so it's a tad trickier to spot a faker, but generally I look at the attitude of the individual. If they're wearing it on their sleeve, I assume they're full of *****. YMMV.


I was a black beret who went to basic at Ft. Jackson :D
 
best way - if they're fairly new, ask them who the current secretary of defense is. part of their training. if they're fairly seasoned, ask them who the current president is - and see how they react.
 
As you probably suspect it was prompted by a local blow hard who claims to be a vet. He's claiming he's a marine vet who served in 'nam. I seriously doubt the claim. I'd give 3 to 1 odds in fact.

Ask him his DI's name. If he can't spit it out instantly he's fake.

I have a theory that if everyone who claimed they fought in Vietnam had actually done so, we would have outnumbered the NVA 30:1 :D
 
I was a black beret who went to basic at Ft. Jackson :D
LOL I believe that...and I'd say no sthi, where'd you go to basic?
I was a Maroon Beret, went to basic at C 1/50 (Ft. Benning), and Abn. at A 1/507...
Those are the answers I look for from Army types...again, YMMV.
What was your mos?
 
LOL I believe that...and I'd say no sthi, where'd you go to basic?
I was a Maroon Beret, went to basic at C 1/50 (Ft. Benning), and Abn. at A 1/507...
Those are the answers I look for from Army types...again, YMMV.
What was your mos?

You mean a R aspberry Beret right :devil:
I went to Jackson July of 95 , was in A co 239/inf , 4th PLT

DS's names were DS Doll and DS Hickman and I cant remember the third one,

First MOS was a 29J with the 3622 Maint CO ( Ft Indiantown Gap ) changed to a 35J
Then got re-classed to a 52C then 63J , same Unit, when they closed up the electronics shop.
Then my final MOS , I re-classed to a 68W formally known as a 91B ( MEDIC) with the Headquarters troop of the 2/104 Cav ( RSTA) , also Guard

Listed in AKO as Retired :D

It wasnt until I went to a combat arms unit that I had the option for all the schools that gave you the chest lettuce.
 
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BM1 George Davis, assisted by BM1 Parker and YN2 Lundell were the people who shepherded P-128, the largest company ever to go through USCG Basic training.

"To walk my post from flank to flank, and salute all bastards above my rank". That's the General Order I remember best.
 
Ask him his DI's name. If he can't spit it out instantly he's fake.

I have a theory that if everyone who claimed they fought in Vietnam had actually done so, we would have outnumbered the NVA 30:1 :D

best way - if they're fairly new, ask them who the current secretary of defense is. part of their training. if they're fairly seasoned, ask them who the current president is - and see how they react.
I wouldn't have thought of asking those questions, but they are good ones.

BM1 George Davis, assisted by BM1 Parker and YN2 Lundell were the people who shepherded P-128, the largest company ever to go through USCG Basic training.

"To walk my post from flank to flank, and salute all bastards above my rank". That's the General Order I remember best.
AOC/SW Vercher and GMGC/SW Roney. I don't remember the whole tune, but one of the lines in the cadence we came up with was "187 and 118 are the best Orlando's seen." I was in C-187 and our sister company was K-118.

Personally, I have mixed feelings on the whole issue. On one hand, I defended the rights of these yahoos to speak whatever they want to. Doesn't mean I like it, just means they have that right.

On the other hand, their saying so shouldn't mean they automatically get the benefit or honor that is due a real military man.
 
Yes , the general orders is another way to catch them in a lie. depending on the service and if you remember them yourself ....


I will guard everything within the limits of my post , and quit my post only when properly relieved.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I will obey my special orders and perform all of my duties in a military manner.

[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I will report violations of my special orders, emergencies, and anything not covered in my instructions to the commander of the relief[/FONT].
 
Yes , the general orders is another way to catch them in a lie.


I will guard everything within the limits of my post , and quit my post only when properly relieved.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I will obey my special orders and perform all of my duties in a military manner.

[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I will report violations of my special orders, emergencies, and anything not covered in my instructions to the commander of the relief[/FONT].
This would trip me up - I don't remember them. :confused:

I could tell you that my submarine was 292' 3 1/8" long, though, and that it was commissioned March 18, 1967, 7 months and 3 days before I was born.
 
This would trip me up - I don't remember them. :confused:

I could tell you that my submarine was 292' 3 1/8" long, though, and that it was commissioned March 18, 1967, 7 months and 3 days before I was born.
To be fair, that was Army. But if you attempted and got parts of it , would show a little something.
 
To be fair, that was Army. But if you attempted and got parts of it , would show a little something.
Oh, we had general orders in the Navy... Just that the last time I memorized them was in boot camp. I'm sure there were general orders on the boat for the people on the security watches (topside and below decks in port), but I was a nuke, so I didn't stand those watches. I stood engineering watches. My watches in port consisted of monitoring the nuke plant for the most part.
 
it's really nice when you have a faker that says he has the same job as you do - ha

I'm combat arms also (AF) - but not sure if it equates to the army.
 
Asking someone to recite the 10 general orders of a sentry is a good way to find out which branch they were in...if they can't remember any, and shudder about their panic-stricken attempt to recite one while trying to flee the tear gas chamber at Great Lakes, they were probably in the Navy.

If they call ships boats, ladders "steep stairways" and complain indignantly about the shortage of hot chicks on Adak, they were probably in the VP Navy.

Moffett Field, Hawaii, Okinawa, redeployment home through Sydney and Pago Pago, tweet life in the VP navy was tough duty but somebody had to do it.

Our shop chief was horrified that there were POs in the Nav who'd never been aboard ship, so he checked out a van and took us to see one at White Beach in Okinawa. His buddy took us through a rat warren of narrow aisles and steep stairways to show us the PO1 quarters, which I think were three bunks on each side with an aluminum picnic table that had fold up seats in the middle. 8x10 maybe, with knee knockers on both ends, but I guess they were OK in comparison to others because he got a little ****ed at my negative comments.

Suffering from claustrophobia, we fled onshore to a little geedunk shop for liquid refreshments, where we found out how lucky VP sailors really are. There were a bunch of sailors hanging around outside who begged us to buy them beer, just like we did when we were teenagers at the local 7-11, and we learned that fleet sailor ID cards are stamped with their boat's name, which helps ensure that they can't buy recreational beverages during short-term onshore liberty. We bought them some, of course, until Chiefie made us stop.

My recruiter was an ADC P-3 F/E who advised me to work hard, slam dunk "A" school and request a west coast VP squadron from my detailer--best advice I ever got.

Cheers!
 
Ask him his DI's name. If he can't spit it out instantly he's fake.
Wouldn't work with me. I served in the AF from 78-83, immersed myself in the civilian world for 22 years, went back through an abbreviated 5-week version of Army basic (Warrior Transition Course) in 2006 when I joined the Guard, and just made my final transition back to 100% civilian life again in January. I can remember my AF Drill Instructor from 1978 (SSG Cross), but can't for the life of me remember my lead Army Drill Sergeant's name from as recent as 2006. I can see his face, hear his voice, and can even remember the last words he said to me, but I can't remember his name. :dunno:

My Army basic was at Fort Knox. The three names that stand out the clearest from my time there are Agony, Misery and Heartbreak. Anyone that went through basic there can commiserate.
 
Wouldn't work with me. I served in the AF from 78-83, immersed myself in the civilian world for 22 years, went back through an abbreviated 5-week version of Army basic (Warrior Transition Course) in 2006 when I joined the Guard, and just made my final transition back to 100% civilian life again in January. I can remember my AF Drill Instructor from 1978 (SSG Cross), but can't for the life of me remember my lead Army Drill Sergeant's name from as recent as 2006. I can see his face, hear his voice, and can even remember the last words he said to me, but I can't remember his name. :dunno:

My Army basic was at Fort Knox. The three names that stand out the clearest from my time there are Agony, Misery and Heartbreak. Anyone that went through basic there can commiserate.

And you can't forget drilling on the "Triple Nickle" - Training area 555. And you are quite correct about Agony, Misery, and Heartbreak. Drill Sergeant Gainey and Drill Sergeant Ogg. " We're Gainey's Raiders, proud as we can be. We are 4th Platoon of Delta Company.....". Remember it like it was yesterday, but sadly that was 30 years ago this month!
 
Asking someone to recite the 10 general orders of a sentry is a good way to find out which branch they were in...if they can't remember any, and shudder about their panic-stricken attempt to recite one while trying to flee the tear gas chamber at Great Lakes, they were probably in the Navy.
LOL - Orlando for me, but yeah. When I walked out of the gas chamber, I saw a scuttlebutt and went to it to rinse out my eyes. While doing so, I got yelled at and ended up doing 50 push-ups with a string of snot between my nose and the ground. Fun times.

If they call ships boats, ladders "steep stairways" and complain indignantly about the shortage of hot chicks on Adak, they were probably in the VP Navy.
Now hey - the REAL ships in the Navy ARE boats! There are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and targets. We didn't have any steep stairways, though. We had ladders.
*scratching my brain* What is VP?

Moffett Field, Hawaii, Okinawa, redeployment home through Sydney and Pago Pago, tweet life in the VP navy was tough duty but somebody had to do it.

Our shop chief was horrified that there were POs in the Nav who'd never been aboard ship, so he checked out a van and took us to see one at White Beach in Okinawa. His buddy took us through a rat warren of narrow aisles and steep stairways to show us the PO1 quarters, which I think were three bunks on each side with an aluminum picnic table that had fold up seats in the middle. 8x10 maybe, with knee knockers on both ends, but I guess they were OK in comparison to others because he got a little ****ed at my negative comments.
Reminds me of when I was in Nuclear Power School in Orlando. When we were broke on a weekend, we'd go out to Port Canaveral to see if there was a sub in port that we could get a tour of. Once, while topside on the pier waiting for permission to come aboard, a guy popped out of the hatch carrying trash. He had been my roommate in A school, but had rocked out. Next day while he was on liberty, I went out and picked him up, and we caught up on "old" times. LOL

After seeing a sub, maybe we'd go to the beach or something, but we'd always end up eating at Patrick AFB. Nothing like free food. And while the Navy's food is generally better, the AF has better food than an NTC. ;)

Suffering from claustrophobia, we fled onshore to a little geedunk shop for liquid refreshments, where we found out how lucky VP sailors really are. There were a bunch of sailors hanging around outside who begged us to buy them beer, just like we did when we were teenagers at the local 7-11, and we learned that fleet sailor ID cards are stamped with their boat's name, which helps ensure that they can't buy recreational beverages during short-term onshore liberty. We bought them some, of course, until Chiefie made us stop.
Now there's a word I have not heard in a LOOOOONG time.

My recruiter was an ADC P-3 F/E who advised me to work hard, slam dunk "A" school and request a west coast VP squadron from my detailer--best advice I ever got.

Cheers!
My recruiter was a crook who lied to me. I was in DEP for 363 days, signed up prior to my senior year. At the end of the year, I won first place in Indiana in the Vocational Industrial Clubs of America for their annual competition, in the Industrial Electronics category. I won 3 scholarships, and he told me I couldn't get out of my obligation because the biggest one was for full tuition for an associate degree, and he said it had to be a bachelor's to get out of shipping out. Found out in the third week of boot camp that he lied to me. By then it was too late. :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
 
I had to take my friend to the emergency room last night, she got her hand nicked by the saw. This was at the hospital on Coronado, the home of BUDS. One guy was sitting there, had a paratrooper T shirt on, I said "Airborne, don't see that much around here, what unit were you with?" He said he had never been in the military.

The other guy was a huge hulk of a guy, short cropped hair, I figured he had to be a SEAL, so I said; "Well you gotta be military." Nope, he said he had never been in the service. Even my friend was incredulous, the guy had military all over him.

So we were talking about it on the way home, we decided the paratrooper guy was telling the truth, and the SEAL looking guy was lying. However, now that I'm writing about this, he had to be telling the truth. Why was he in a civilian emergency room? Or perhaps that hospital is under contract with the Navy?

I guess the best way to find out is to just ask. Without a way of verifying, you'll probably never know the truth. There are units that discourage their members from publicizing themselves, or their unit.

Then there are the thousands of posers. There was an old fart who had been passing himself off as a decorated retired Marine General. He had the full dress blue uniform, all the medals. He would go to civic and military functions, then bask in his unearned glory.

He lives in Ramona, and was busted at a Corps function of some sort a year or two ago. He ended up in court, never showed an ounce of shame or remorse.

There just seems to be a whole lot of people who see nothing wrong with being phony heroes. After the recent Supreme Court Ruling, it seems our government thinks it's OK as well.

I'm not sure what, if anything can be done about it. At least if you intend on remaining within the law when personally deciding how to handle a poser.


-John
 
I'm pretty sure they only show folks who've joined. I just joined and before completing my profile, tried to find myself in their system... not there.


I tried looking up some friends and family that I knew had prior service and they weren't listed. OTOH, both of my kids (and myself) were/are listed, so ...
 
I think you can tell if there is a member of the military in the room the same way you call tell if there's pilot in the room.

They'll tell you.
 
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