Military limiting F22 flights

According to AvLeak, the ideal situation is to have F15-Cs and F22s teamed
and hunting together. Seems that some of the F15 fleet (~176 -C & -D models have
"better" (Raytheon APG-63(V)2 AESA) radar that is too big for the F22s. Sadly,
they cannot directly share data ... and require a data-relay aircraft (BACN = bacon).

http://www.warisboring.com/2011/04/...ed-f-15s-to-counter-chinese-stealth-fighters/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/air-forces-universal-translator-has-everybody-talking/
 
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rainsux said:
According to AvLeak, the ideal situation is to have F15s and F22s teamed and hunting together. Seems that some of the F15 fleet has "better" radar due to the increased antenna size. Sadly, they cannot directly share data ... And require a data-relay aircraft.
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Not a bad idea actually, plus you can see the guy with his radar on, let the 15 do that and the 22 can sneak up...
 
rainsux said:
According to AvLeak, the ideal situation is to have F15-Cs and F22s teamed
and hunting together. Seems that some of the F15 fleet (~176 -C & -D models have
"better" (Raytheon APG-63(V)2 AESA) radar that is too big for the F22s. Sadly,
they cannot directly share data ... and require a data-relay aircraft (BACN = bacon).

http://www.warisboring.com/2011/04/...ed-f-15s-to-counter-chinese-stealth-fighters/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/air-forces-universal-translator-has-everybody-talking/
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Isn't that what the AWACS does?
 
EvilEagle said:
Red fighters simulate a threat fighter like Su30mki or MiG29 or F14 (Iran), etc.
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Should be thinking about MKK really.

BTW, this thread is such a blast from the past. Here's another one by Ed Rasimus circa 2000:
We used to fly DACM at Holloman between the F-15s and AT-38s. Clearly
a flight capability mismatch. The Eagles had radar, GCI and two UHF
receivers so that they could monitor inter-flight comm of the Talons.

The significant difference was experience. The typical AT-38 IP had more
than a 1000 hours of tactical fighter time and was flying 10 sorties a week.
The Eagle drivers were averaging under 300 hours since UPT and flew
roughly 3-4 sorties/week. Additionally, the 49th TFW Wing CC had directed
that the Eagles operate with continual "visual, radar and radio" support,
effectively restricting them to a form of "fighting wing."

I recall a 2-v-2 that I led with Mike Scott (son of **** Gen. Winfield
Scott) against a pair of Eagles led by the Western States demo pilot.
We flew six engagements, shot up two full rolls of 16MM film of F-15
planforms, and the super-jets never got a shot on us. We operated with
splits as much as 15K feet in altitude and often had 180 degrees of
heading difference, but no one could deny that we were always in mutual
support. And, every engagement ended in a tactical formation separation--
line abreast, 6-9K feet lateral and each other in sight.

It was a great day for the underdogs. Of course, I had 4000 hours of
fighter time and Mike had 2500. The Eagles never had a chance--unless
the ROE were changed to let them SLAM us at 25 miles prior to the merge.
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rainsux said:
According to AvLeak, the ideal situation is to have F15-Cs and F22s teamed
and hunting together. Seems that some of the F15 fleet (~176 -C & -D models have
"better" (Raytheon APG-63(V)2 AESA) radar that is too big for the F22s. Sadly,
they cannot directly share data ... and require a data-relay aircraft (BACN = bacon).

http://www.warisboring.com/2011/04/...ed-f-15s-to-counter-chinese-stealth-fighters/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/air-forces-universal-translator-has-everybody-talking/
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We train to this a lot. It's a blast and very effective!
 
zaitcev said:
Should be thinking about MKK really.

BTW, this thread is such a blast from the past. Here's another one by Ed Rasimus circa 2000:
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We train to every variant of he Flanker family. MKK, F11B, all of them.
 
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