Militarized Cessna 172

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"I dare you to cut me off in the pattern. I dare you."

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Are they really expecting someone to shoot down a drone with the Cessna, or are the guns just for show and the instructions to the pilots "if you can't hit it with the gun, hit it with the airplane." Because that sounds more possible and more fitting with what little I know of Russian tactics.
 
Albany Tom said:
Are they really expecting someone to shoot down a drone with the Cessna, or are the guns just for show and the instructions to the pilots "if you can't hit it with the gun, hit it with the airplane." Because that sounds more possible and more fitting with what little I know of Russian tactics.
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If the reality of Russia lived up to the bluster of Russia, the Ukraine war would have been over in the first 48 hours.
 
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Recoil probably no issue other than is there enough reinforcement to the belly to handle the shaking…fixed gun is best for any air to air target slow moving…the Army actually had in the early 80’s an Air to Air course at some units complete with FM manual primarily anti helicopter but would work with drones. Fixed gun 20mm or mini gun was preferred engagement unless loaded with 2.75 Fleshetts, If you had them. What’s old is new again…the course was dumped after the proliferation of shoulder fired missiles and new guidelines from the Army Safety Center reinforced prohibition of aerobatic flight…they frowned on some of the maneuvers particularly a Split S and flat scissors. Sure was fun flying though…
 
Can we get this STC in the states as a way to take care of Cirrus's on 20 mile straight ins to busy VFR patterns?
 
Todd82 said:
Can we get this STC in the states as a way to take care of Cirrus's on 20 mile straight ins to busy VFR patterns?
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I had to laugh a couple of days ago. Was waiting in the cell-phone lot at PDX, waiting for a family member to arrive. F-15s of the Oregon Air National Guard came and landed while I watched. Overhead breaks, but they flew a tight base and final. In fact, a couple of them were even dragging it in on final (adding power to prevent an undershoot). I've seen many a GA aircraft flying a much wider pattern.....

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Am I the only one thinking about the massive, feared, Russian military machine...needs Cessna 172s to fight a war?

Granted, we used O-1 Birddogs in Vietnam.
 
In other news Cessna has announced the sale of 200 172 fast build kits to the Russian Federation.

Cole18 said:
definitely need an STC for that here in America
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STC, we don't need no stinking STC
 
Much more important, is it semi-automatic or automatic? Have to know if a tax stamp and FFL is required.

I seem to recall that either a P-40 or P-51 had its guns reinstalled in the wings for a ground demonstration, but I'm sure lots of eyes were on that.
 
midwestpa24 said:
Much more important, is it semi-automatic or automatic? Have to know if a tax stamp and FFL is required.

I seem to recall that either a P-40 or P-51 had its guns reinstalled in the wings for a ground demonstration, but I'm sure lots of eyes were on that.
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The Sopwith Pup replica at the Creve Coeur museum has both a rotary engine and an operational Vickers. I talked to the pilot on my visit. Due to the interrupter gear, the rate of fire depends on engine RPM...which, of course, increases in a dive and decreases in a climb. So the rate of fire goes down if you're diving on the Hun, but rises if you're hanging on the prop shooting him from below.
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midwestpa24 said:
Am I the only one thinking about the massive, feared, Russian military machine...needs Cessna 172s to fight a war?

Granted, we used O-1 Birddogs in Vietnam.
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I'm not sure we can throw stones these days... Something about replacing one of the most effective ground support aircraft ever developed with a crop sprayer. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if your enemy consists of people other than those that are in a military organization.
 
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