Lost focus in the flare

Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by Timbeck2, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Pilawt

    Pilawt Final Approach

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    I've never landed a Boeing.

    But I have landed a boing-boing-boing-boing-boing ...

    :oops:
     
  2. Skyrys62

    Skyrys62 Pattern Altitude

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    In my limited time as PIC (porpoiser in command) I've always pulled the yoke back and bounced on the mains till I wasn't bouncing anymore...or added some power and settled it down. And ohhh yes, there was some side loading on a couple of occasions.
    Funny how turning the yoke didn't help with that. :fingerwag:
     
  3. exncsurfer

    exncsurfer Pattern Altitude

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    There are two kinds of pilots, those that have bounced a landing and those that realize that they've bounced a landing. Haha, just kidding, good on you, keep up the good work.
     
  4. LSADug

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    Student pilot in a Skycatcher. I've bounced it twice.

    Once I caught a gust just after landing with the nose still off the ground and the extra wind just picked me back up. I should have added throttle but...still learning. Landed hard the second time but didn't break anything.

    The other time was early on while doing solo landings. I'm not exactly sure what happened. My CFI said I landed flat, possibly nose wheel first and bounced back up. Nothing broke, lesson learned.

    The Skycatcher should probably be named 'Windcatcher'...
     
  5. Clark1961

    Clark1961 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    I flew a few hours in an LSA club. They had an accident involving over gross operation before I was there. My private pilot DPE knew the instructor involved in the accident and the NTSB report was rather damning. Anyway the club specified approach speeds well over Vso*1.3. Quite predictably they had a couple “run off the runway going really fast accidents”. I tried to fly the way they wanted and bounced...a lot. I flew an approach at 1.3*Vso and landed nicely. Canceled my membership shortly thereafter.
     
  6. George Mohr

    George Mohr Pre-takeoff checklist

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    I landed flat the other day, and bounced the nose gear a couple times. My thought was, "oh that's what that feels like... let's not do that again"
     
  7. mtuomi

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    Too general, it depends on the situation. Do it in St Barths rwy 10 and you'll avoid an accident. Do it in St Barths rwy 28 and you die.
     
  8. jordane93

    jordane93 Final Approach

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    I think it’s safe to say most people on this board aren’t flying into St Barth’s.
     
  9. Ryanb

    Ryanb Final Approach PoA Supporter

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    Something to add, that some pilots tend to do, is ‘stair-step’ the airplane down. Meaning, they’ll start a flare, then release some back pressure to nose level, then start a flare again and so on. Doing so tends to either result in a rough landing or a porpoise and bounce once they do eventually hit. Holding a continuous flare throughout the round out is key, with only slight adjustments as needed before touching down.
     
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  10. Paulie

    Paulie Line Up and Wait

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    The landings are always towards the sea at St B. As well as take off.
     
  11. mtuomi

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    Err, no they are not.
    Takeoffs are always 10, but landings are 28 until you hit 10ish kts winds.
     
  12. TylerSC

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    I bounced a PW-5 glider once. Thankfully it was on grass. There's no go around option. The first hit was a surprise, the second hit was an even bigger surprise. Somehow I kept the stick back and got out of the PIO after the second impact.