Logging Instrument Time

[midlifeflyer]

If a tree falls in the middle of the forest and there is no one there except you and your buddy, can you log the time?

The question in that situation is not whether you can log the time, but whether you can time the log.

 

[DGlaeser]

I'm not sure what you are saying. So here are some breakdowns.
A non-instrument rated pilot can log PIC time when flying in actual or simulated instrument conditions.
Simulated instrument conditions require a safety pilot under 91.109.
Actual instrument conditions do not require a safety pilot.

Actual instrument conditions DO require a pilot who IS instrument rated to act as PIC.
So the IR PIC can log the time, and the NON-IR sole manipulator can log the time (while in IMC).
(just saw that this was also stated in a previous message - sorry for the duplication)

 

[midlifeflyer]

Actual instrument conditions DO require a pilot who IS instrument rated to act as PIC.

Yes, I said that.

So the IR PIC can log the time, and the NON-IR sole manipulator can log the time (while in IMC).

Only the second half of that is correct. The first half is only partially correct.

Unless the flying pilot is under the hood, the IR PIC cannot log anything. There's no 61.51 PIC "box" the IR PIC fits into. That was exactly what the Chief Counsel opinion letter linked earlier in the thread said.

 

[dmspilot]

So the IR PIC can log the time, and the NON-IR sole manipulator can log the time (while in IMC). (just saw that this was also stated in a previous message - sorry for the duplication)

Acting PIC does not mean you can log PIC. Read the thread over again from post #1.