Lawsuit Madness - OMG

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by CT4ME, Oct 10, 2013.

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  1. JeffDG

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    Wow, I see why he didn't report to the NTSB:

    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    Just to be clear, the Rotax 912 series was designed from the ground up as an aircraft engine, there is even a certified version (912S). Rotax has made a lot of different engines for a lot of applications, but this series is a 100% aviation engine. Some might not like some of the design features, but that is a different kettle 'o fish. :D

    As pointed out, the "choke" on a 912 is actually an enrichment circuit to promote ease of cold starting and higher idle RPM during warm-up. It is needed because the altitude-compensating Bing carbs don't have a mixture control.

    The Bings are a mixed bag. It's nice that you don't have to play with mixture when flying, but the design goes full rich above 92% throttle. This protects the engine most of the time, but at high altitude (above 10k) when you might be running full throttle to get all available power, you will lose some power because the mixture has gone too rich for the environment.
     
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    I believe he has stated he has had 10 CFIs. Finding one to sign him off might have been a challenge...
     
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    I found this from July 2012 ironic...

    http://sportpilottalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=17613#p17613
     
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    True, the the Bing carburetors they use are very lightly modified motorcycle units. Alnog with that go some limitations inherent in the design, like a lack of mixture control.

    The main modification was getting Bing to redesign the single float arrangement into a dual, independent float design, I imagine to help with uncoordinated flight.

    For grins, here I am at a BMW rally installing the new design into my airhead GS:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Now that is cruel and unusual punishment...:lol::rofl::redface:
     
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    The guy can't be playing with a full deck. . .

    . . . As in his elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor

    . . . As in he's a few fries short of a Happy Meal

    . . . As in he's a few beers short of a six-pack

    . . . As in he's depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. . .

    I honestly can't get my skull wrapped around what makes someone like that tick. . .
     
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    How many fellow ambulance chasers would give our intrepid FAR violator a big "thumbs up" over this lawsuit?

    Unfortunately, I think that number is limitless.
     
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    Given the number of pilots who have inadvertently pulled the mixture or screwed up their engine by incorrect use of it, I dont see the rationale to not include that type of control. Very few LSAs venture out of their local area and you are altitude restricted. Once the plane is adjusted to airport elevation, you are good for the kind of local flying most of them do. Unless you are that one guy who commutes across the rockies in a LSA, not including a mixture control is a acceptable compromise. J3s and some of the lower powered champs dont have a mixture control either.

    One less thing to screw up. Just like going from a L/R/both/off fuel selector to a on/off type. Basically idiot proof (well, until nature comes up with a better idiot).
     
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    I agree...there is one of the CT guys flying out of Mammoth CA (I think he said his pattern altitude is 9500ft) that wishes for some mixture override on the Bings, but I think most of us are very happy with the setup.
     
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    It works.

    Just like the Continental 65 and Continental 85 worked with the mixture control wired full rich by the factory. But, that was before LSAs were invented so it was OK.
     
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    The lawyer is the pilot in question.
     
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    And the ultimate....

    He gives lawyers a bad name.
     
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    I don't think so. My little cousin (only because he's 4 years younger than I am) is an ambulance cha....er....Personal Injury Attorney in Texas, has argued in front of the Texas Supreme Court (and won). Even he thinks this is a stupid case and wouldn't touch it for anything.
     
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    To the contrary, he has blessed our little online village with his presence.

    :crazy:
     
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    I found another suit for him to file:
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    Per the vote of the Management Council, this thread has been closed.

    As a reminder, comments should be about the *topic*, ***NOT*** about the poster(s).
     
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