Is the USSS starting to use some common sense?

[EdFred]

Looking at the TFR that's centered over-ish Somerset, NJ I see not 1, not 2, not 3, but SIX cutouts for airports near the edge of the TFR.

Not that a TFR in itself demonstrates much in the way of common sense, but I was surprised to see a bunch of notches in the ring.

 

[wayne]

But no cutouts for the one at Morristown.

 

[wayne]

Maybe it's cost cutting so they don't have to go chase down planes at the edge of the outer ring.

I was down in Miami this spring when Trump was down there on one of his trips. I was shocked at how close ATC vectored me to the inner ring. It was really close. I brought it up a couple of times. I didn't want someone flying off my wing tip asking me to rock my wings because ATC vectored me into trouble.

 

[EdFred]

But no cutouts for the one at Morristown.

I'm guessing because the Morristown one is only for an hour each time and the Bedminster one goes for 2 days

 

[denverpilot]

Maybe it's cost cutting so they don't have to go chase down planes at the edge of the outer ring.

If costs mattered they’d drop the things altogether as the security theater they are.

 

[asicer]

If costs mattered they’d drop the things altogether as the security theater they are.

Baby steps...

 

[Ken Ibold]

Maybe it's cost cutting so they don't have to go chase down planes at the edge of the outer ring.

I was down in Miami this spring when Trump was down there on one of his trips. I was shocked at how close ATC vectored me to the inner ring. It was really close. I brought it up a couple of times. I didn't want someone flying off my wing tip asking me to rock my wings because ATC vectored me into trouble.

Did you ever hear Bill Cox's story of getting face planted on the pavement by the guys in the black SUVs?

 

[MauleSkinner]

Did you ever hear Bill Cox's story of getting face planted on the pavement by the guys in the black SUVs?

Do you have a link to the one about getting face planted, or just this one?

 

[wayne]

Did you ever hear Bill Cox's story of getting face planted on the pavement by the guys in the black SUVs?

Maybe. I've read one or two. I was ready to tell them "unable" if they vectored me into the inner ring. Pretty sure, not 100%, but pretty dang sure, I don't qualify to fly through the inner ring, even IFR. The guy on the other end of the radio wouldn't be the guy at the wrong end of the gun, so....

 

[EdFred]

Did you ever hear Bill Cox's story of getting face planted on the pavement by the guys in the black SUVs?

He didn't mention getting face planted in that article.

 

[Ken Ibold]

He didn't mention getting face planted in that article.

OK, OK, guilty of hyperbole!

 

[EdFred]

OK, OK, guilty of hyperbole!

John and Martha got face planted though.

 

[Ken Ibold]

John and Martha got face planted though.

True enough. When Bill told me his story, it seemed more ... intrusive ... than what he put in print. Probably didn't want the file re-opened!

 

[trenton]

visual aid

 

[denverpilot]

The database coder knew they were guilty. His code told the cops so.

 

[danhagan]

visual aid

Damn! Look at all those effing airports! Send some down here!

 

[frfly172]

Talk about putting the hurts on GA and the little guy.

 

[James331]

Just another step away from the nation our forefather knew.

Honestly, if some politician gets killed we just elect another one, 95% of the are interchangeable anyways

 

[UngaWunga]

They were meant to be replaceable. THat's why we hold elections. Quit electing the same dumbasses....

 

[drotto]

Robbinsville (N87) has always had the cutout for this TFR. Despite that the TFR still scares weekend flyers away. I have flow around and into N87 several times with the TFR yp, it does not look any different this time.

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