Is a medical necessary for this?

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Dave S.

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A prospective student asked end me an interesting question...

Must he have a medical for me to give him a flight review or an IPC?

My thought is that I would be PIC in the IPC anyway so that doesn't require him to have one, and

I would simply act as PIC for the review as well so, again, he doesn't need one.

Any thoughts?

tex
 
MauleSkinner said:
Why is that your thought?

(I assume that by "be" you mean "act as".)
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He gives IPCs under IFR?

A noncurrent or non-instrument-rated pilot can act as PIC under VFR, even if under the hood. It just doesn't count for currency until the IPC is signed off.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Why is that your thought?
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He might have meant "would" in the prospective "will" sense, not the mandatory "must" sense.

"If he's not able to act as PIC,I would"
Not
"It's an IPC so I would have to act as PIC."

Or, as @MAKG1 supposed, parts of the IPC might be on an IFR flight plan.

Btw, didn't we just have a very long discussion on this, or was that another forum?

As @OverTQ said, no, he does not need a medical for an IPC or flight review. Although I woul refer to 61.23, the reg that describesvwhen a medical certificate is required.
 
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What I meant was that while doing the IPC with him under the hood I am acting as PIC even if he has no medical.
The same with the FR. I will act as PIC since he can't because he doesn't have a medical.

My point is...is there any reason anyone can think of that keep me from doing this?

tex
 
Dave S. said:
What I meant was that while doing the IPC with him under the hood I am acting as PIC even if he has no medical.
The same with the FR. I will act as PIC since he can't because he doesn't have a medical.

My point is...is there any reason anyone can think of that keep me from doing this?

tex
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I can't think of any. I got an IPC and a BFR last year when I was medically grounded. The CFI was of course the Pilot in Command of the flight. He never had to take the controls so I logged the entire time as PIC.
 
I had a records kerfuffle with my medical a couple of cycles back and I was without a medical for a month. My BFR (actually annual for club insurance reasons) was due. So I asked the Chief Instructor if he'd do my BFR and act as PIC since my medical was in flux. He was happy to.
 
Dave S. said:
What I meant was that while doing the IPC with him under the hood I am acting as PIC even if he has no medical.
The same with the FR. I will act as PIC since he can't because he doesn't have a medical.

My point is...is there any reason anyone can think of that keep me from doing this?

tex
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None at all, notwithstanding the occasional CFI who wants the pilot receiving the FR or IPC to have a medical since he believes his signature is a go-ahead that authorizes the pilot to fly as PIC.

Just to throw a wrinkle at this, has any clarification come down yet about the case where the CFI doesn't have a medical and is flying under BasicMed (after May 1, of course)? Last I heard, the CFI can instruct without legal worries UNLESS he is not PIC and in a situation where more than one crew member is required, such as giving an IPC with a hooded pilot, or primary training or a FR with a hooded pilot. In those situations, the CFI MUST be acting as PIC in order to be legal. (Similarly, to act as safety pilot for another pilot, a pilot flying under BasicMed must be acting as PIC and not SIC.)

At least that was my understanding... not being a CFI, I haven't really followed that aspect of it too closely.
 
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