If you came close to airspace

mandm said:
I lost track of my rate of climb for a moment, it was turbulent, and an updraft may have pushed me ~50’ higher than what I wanted, and I corrected about 20-30 seconds after the fact. Wasn’t sure if a bell went off to ATC when this happened. I was not in contact w ATC and not on frequency.
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and were you IN the charlie airspace or CLOSE TO it?

the ceiling of my delta is 32hunj and the floor of the bravo above it is 36hunj. by my math that's 4800 inches of wiggle room and while I've done it several times and it's literally no big deal (transitioning between the two), I'm very aware that any deviation could put me close. if you have extremely small margins like the 50' you mentioned, I'd wonder if there is a better option/flight plan available for you to follow. if not, I'd be talking to someone. either way, I stand by the "there is no penalty for 'coming CLOSE TO' airspace".
 
eman1200 said:
and were you IN the charlie airspace or CLOSE TO it?

the ceiling of my delta is 32hunj and the floor of the bravo above it is 36hunj. by my math that's 4800 inches of wiggle room and while I've done it several times and it's literally no big deal (transitioning between the two), I'm very aware that any deviation could put me close. if you have extremely small margins like the 50' you mentioned, I'd wonder if there is a better option/flight plan available for you to follow. if not, I'd be talking to someone. either way, I stand by the "there is no penalty for 'coming CLOSE TO' airspace".
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Yeah I get that and I have no problem coming close, I was 50’ higher than what I wanted / or should have been. I took off at an airport under a shelf and yes I want to climb to a higher altitude, but turbulence and updrafts, pushed me higher than what I wanted. I was at a non towered airport, if I were to call ATC for FF, I’d likely do that once I’m in cruise or level flight. Sometimes I don’t want to talk to ATC, it can get noisy on frequency, and I usually make that decision on whether I feel like talking, and of course weather, course, terrain, airspace, etc.
 
eman1200 said:
were you IN the charlie airspace or CLOSE TO it?
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mandm said:
Yeah I get that and I have no problem coming close, I was 50’ higher than what I wanted / or should have been. I took off at an airport under a shelf and yes I want to climb to a higher altitude, but turbulence and updrafts, pushed me higher than what I wanted. I was at a non towered airport, if I were to call ATC for FF, I’d likely do that once I’m in cruise or level flight. Sometimes I don’t want to talk to ATC, it can get noisy on frequency, and I usually make that decision on whether I feel like talking, and of course weather, course, terrain, airspace, etc.
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I would assume that since you almost answered the question but didn’t, you also almost busted airspace but didn’t. Continue accordingly.
 
mandm said:
Yeah I get that and I have no problem coming close, I was 50’ higher than what I wanted / or should have been. I took off at an airport under a shelf and yes I want to climb to a higher altitude, but turbulence and updrafts, pushed me higher than what I wanted. I was at a non towered airport, if I were to call ATC for FF, I’d likely do that once I’m in cruise or level flight. Sometimes I don’t want to talk to ATC, it can get noisy on frequency, and I usually make that decision on whether I feel like talking, and of course weather, course, terrain, airspace, etc.
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Altimetry System Error is up to 245 feet by ICAO standard. So you could think you were below the airspace when you actually were in it. Or, ATC could think you are in their airspace when you are actually below it.

Errors like yours happen all the time, every day, in every controlled airspace. They are not going to hunt you down. Go forth and sin no more.

The floor of Class B over Tampa Bay is 1200 feet in many places. Much of the area below is congested. That means the legal operating altitude window is 200 feet. How many times a day do you think that is busted high or low? Dozens, if not hundreds.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Will the amount of error dramatically change between takeoff and the floor of the Class C?
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What if you're one of those pilots who insists on using the correct altimeter setting even if it results in a clearly erroneous altitude indication?
 
Lindberg said:
What if you're one of those pilots who insists on using the correct altimeter setting even if it results in a clearly erroneous altitude indication?
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That would be the next question I would ask after my question was answered.
 
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