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I'm doing a 10-day IR course this week, flying a 172 owned by a flying club of which the client is a member. We lost half a day last week due to the airplane going in for an oil change, and more flying time over the weekend as you can't do much useful IR training with 35-knot surface winds and reported moderate to severe turbulence, so we were a bit behind in the schedule when things calmed down Sunday afternoon.
We got a good flight in Sunday evening, and flew twice yesterday, although the second flight was cut short when, right about sundown, we noticed the high voltage light flickering. For those unfamiliar, illumination of that light means an overvoltage has been sensed and the alternator is taken off line. However, with the dimly flickering high voltage light, there was no low voltage light (signifying the alternator actually off line) and the ammeter was showing the usualy slight charge (and reacted normally when the alternator was secured and reenergized to attempt to reset the overvoltage relay). As this situation is not addressed in the Owner's Manual or emergency checklist, we elected shut down all nonessential electrical equipment and RTB'd before it got really dark, with no additional difficulties.
This morning, the club maintainers looked the plane over, said they couldn't duplicate the problem other than at idle, and it went away after a few minutes. They did further checks, announced that one cell of the battery was weak, and returned the plane to service. We took it up after lunch without further analysis
After about an hour and a half, the light started flickering again. Within five minutes, it was coming on bright, the alternator was dropping off and coming back, and then we smelled electrical smoke. A quick emergency call to approach, master switch off, and a prompt landing at the airport five miles from our position. No further indication of trouble other than residual electical smoke odor. We made an uneventful no-flap landing, pulled off the runway, shut down, egressed, stood about 50 feet upwind of the plane, phoned Approach to say we were on the ground OK, and waited until the fire crews showed up. When we opened up the engine compartment, we found:
A long time ago, then-Col Richard R. "Bob" Riddick, then-Deputy Commander of Operations of the 20th Tac Fighter Wing, told every crewmember in the wing, "If it ain't fixed, don't fly it." He was, and is right.
PS: I'm glad I fly a Grumman, which allows easy access to view the engine compartment during preflight. That might not have changed the electrical issues, but we'd've sure seen the oil and the rag, and probably would not have flown the plane without further investigation.
We got a good flight in Sunday evening, and flew twice yesterday, although the second flight was cut short when, right about sundown, we noticed the high voltage light flickering. For those unfamiliar, illumination of that light means an overvoltage has been sensed and the alternator is taken off line. However, with the dimly flickering high voltage light, there was no low voltage light (signifying the alternator actually off line) and the ammeter was showing the usualy slight charge (and reacted normally when the alternator was secured and reenergized to attempt to reset the overvoltage relay). As this situation is not addressed in the Owner's Manual or emergency checklist, we elected shut down all nonessential electrical equipment and RTB'd before it got really dark, with no additional difficulties.
This morning, the club maintainers looked the plane over, said they couldn't duplicate the problem other than at idle, and it went away after a few minutes. They did further checks, announced that one cell of the battery was weak, and returned the plane to service. We took it up after lunch without further analysis
After about an hour and a half, the light started flickering again. Within five minutes, it was coming on bright, the alternator was dropping off and coming back, and then we smelled electrical smoke. A quick emergency call to approach, master switch off, and a prompt landing at the airport five miles from our position. No further indication of trouble other than residual electical smoke odor. We made an uneventful no-flap landing, pulled off the runway, shut down, egressed, stood about 50 feet upwind of the plane, phoned Approach to say we were on the ground OK, and waited until the fire crews showed up. When we opened up the engine compartment, we found:
- No sign of electrical fire.
- Three or four ounces of fresh oil on the top of the carburetor air box (source unidentified at this time)
- A shop rag neatly folded over one of the engine mounts (no sign of burning).
A long time ago, then-Col Richard R. "Bob" Riddick, then-Deputy Commander of Operations of the 20th Tac Fighter Wing, told every crewmember in the wing, "If it ain't fixed, don't fly it." He was, and is right.
PS: I'm glad I fly a Grumman, which allows easy access to view the engine compartment during preflight. That might not have changed the electrical issues, but we'd've sure seen the oil and the rag, and probably would not have flown the plane without further investigation.