I know Musketeers aren't considered fast, but....

At first glance I thought you were moving slow enough that a bird crapped on you while it was passing you, lol.
 
The 10kts slower is worth it. I've done 16 hour days in a Musketeer and been just fine. Do that in a 172 and I'd wait a week for feeling to return to my ass.
 
schmookeeg said:
The 10kts slower is worth it. I've done 16 hour days in a Musketeer and been just fine. Do that in a 172 and I'd wait a week for feeling to return to my ass.
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Making the time go by faster is nearly as good as making the plane go faster.
 
schmookeeg said:
The 10kts slower is worth it. I've done 16 hour days in a Musketeer and been just fine. Do that in a 172 and I'd wait a week for feeling to return to my ass.
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Depends on the particular Mouse. I believe the book cruise speed for a 172S is about 124 knots, and the book value for my B23 is also 124 knots (75% power at 7500'). I'm seeing within a knot or two of book numbers in my plane, depending on loading and CG location.

The early Mice were underpowered, and even after engine upgrades their reputation never recovered.
 
Half Fast said:
Depends on the particular Mouse. I believe the book cruise speed for a 172S is about 124 knots, and the book value for my B23 is also 124 knots (75% power at 7500'). I'm seeing within a knot or two of book numbers in my plane, depending on loading and CG location.

The early Mice were underpowered, and even after engine upgrades their reputation never recovered.
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The 180 and 200hp early mice are sublime little secrets in the market. I miss our super a lot, and bid on one recently. Too bad the seller was "firm like duane johnson's abs" on his stupidly high price.

But for the same horsepower, I've always found them 10kts slower than a comparable piper or cessna. My first plane was a sundowner and anything over 105kts would be reason to suspect a broken VSI not showing the dive. :D
 
Another nice airplane for comfort are the Commander 112/114 series. I once rode in one with leather seats that was as comfy as my grandmother’s Buick Park Avenue.
 
Have you reported the midair collision to the NTSB?
 
schmookeeg said:
My first plane was a sundowner and anything over 105kts would be reason to suspect a broken VSI not showing the dive.
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That really surprises me, unless you're referring to indicated airspeed instead of true.

Sunday afternoon I flew with just myself onboard, but with full fuel and about 70lbs of stuff in the baggage compartment. I leveled off at 5500' (5538' pressure altitude) at 75% power (a bit over 2600 rpm), and had an indicated airspeed of 125mph (~109 knots), which is a true airspeed of 138mph (120 knots). The POH shows the plane having a TAS of 140mph (122 knots) for that altitude and power setting.

That's only 1.4% below the book number, likely within instrument error, and I probably would have been right on it with a smaller fuel load.


schmookeeg said:
The 180 and 200hp early mice are sublime little secrets in the market.
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Yes, they are indeed! Comfortable, they fly great, and they're easy keepers with no onerous ADs. The people who dis them have likely never flown one.
 
jsstevens said:
Have you reported the midair collision to the NTSB?
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Well, I filed a NASA report, but since the bug wasn't an "aircraft" and there was no structural damage to my plane I didn't report it to the NTSB. I hope the bug's family doesn't sue....
 
I flew a Musketeer a couple times and the thing I remember most about it was the sweet handling and stable feel. Very nice airplane.
 
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