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Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by Let'sgoflying!, Dec 21, 2017.
A rhetorical question, but omg. A real incident.
Lots of rudder inputs? Finally deciding to pay attention to the stick shaker?
Hey, hold my beer and watch this.
I will go with luck.
Saber dance demo in a 737...what will they think of next?
One of my lectures is on somitogenic patterning of the post implantation embryo. I use a metaphor of a broken down Russian airliner trying to pack in half as many passengers due to lacking one engine. I usually give a proviso that I'm just making the stuff up about the Russians, and Russian airliners are likely no worse than their Western couterparts. The one time I had a Russian student she said that I was absolutely right, that Russian airliners were crap and only Russians would be fool enough to fly on them.
Luck along with sheer panic.....
Was this an actual incident or just some toying around on FS? I don't read Russian.
it says, it is from actual flight recorder
Vladimir: Boris, get off flight attendant, something wrong.
Boris: Put down bottle of vodka.
Vladimir: Feels like fat people go to rear lavatories again.
Boris: Fat lady like Vespa, fun to ride until seen with it.
Vladimir: Stop talking about your wife. Moscow, we have problem.
Boris: I need to shake martini, not stir. I hear that in American movie.
Vladimir: Plane go up, what do I do now?
Boris: Make plane go down.
Vladimir: Now wings rock side to side, like American singer Elvis Presley.
Boris: It is unSocialistic to make American reference while performing state job.
Vladimir: Get up here and fly plane or we be sent to Siberian Airline.!!
Boris: Ok, my control. Wait, Putin have control.
Vladimir: Good job Boris. We make American pilot look foolish. Hand me bottle of Vodka, we celebrate.!!
President Putin, on radio: Well done comrades, expect extra roll of toilet paper in pay this week.
A Russian friend explained to me the difference between American airline passengers and their Russian counterparts. At the gate Captain goes on PA to explain they can’t start the right engine. In America, passengers would scream, cry, and file lawsuits for emotional distress. In Russia, they’d pass the hat to raise money to bribe the pilot to take off anyway.
I found that one here:
It's interesting how non US accidents/incidents seem to have a different flavor than domestic ones. Maybe I'm imagining it. But when I'm reading them, they sound completely different.
It was just this October
Once the nose dropped they were able to gain enough airspeed to recover. Maybe? Throttle setting was 95% N1 and they were at high alpha doing the Cobra maneuver until it started falling off to either side, falling leaf style? I don’t know, but someone was Putin their pants on board that flight, fer shurr!
Looks like an upset recovery scenario in the simulator. If that really happened I would love to see the full report on it.
I posted a link to it. About 2 messages above.
Apparently this is a report from Rosaviatsiya. Sounds like the NTSB of Russia to me.
The event itself was a real thing.
Watch the airspeed. Amazing pilots if you ask me. They were flying a 737 at 80kts and performing steep turns! Some Cessna drivers can't even do that!
I love how these people who copy videos on to their YouTube channel to make money off of them, can’t even cut and paste the original story from the original post on YouTube. LOL.
The “amateur videographer” was a tower controller, and the IL-76 was carrying something massive. Electrical substation gear as I recall, but I probably have that wrong... and the takeoff was calculated to take up nearly every inch of that runway.
The tower didn’t know that, though.
Note the low angle on the sun. They did it first thing in the morning for lower temps too, as I recall reading.
Not so sure it would have gone well if they’d have lost an engine above V1 though. Ha.
As I recall those old massive Russian freighters are operated on a lease to a non-Russian company also, aren’t they? Private heavy lift thing. I forget who.
How did they save it? Lots of power.
How did they get into it? They were complete idiots.
Completely inappropriate airspeed for the configuration (135kts, 10° ANU, gear-DN, Flaps-15) at the beginning of the video then allowing the nose to pitch up to 20°+ ANU from the autothrottle power application (sharp pitch-up moment with power application is normal with under-wing engines and should be expected). Normal pitch attitude with Gear-down, Flaps-15 would be around 3°-5° ANU in level flight.
A normal approach would be no slower than about 210 kts clean, 190 kts at flaps-1, 170kts at flaps-5, 150-kts at flaps-15 then target (Vref+wind) with flaps-30. Wouldn't normally go beyond gear-UP, flaps-5 until intercepting the G/S unless the drag was needed for slowing/descending.
It looked to me like an attempt at an aileron roll. They should have gone for a barrel roll instead, like that one famous incident with the 707 prototype.