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Love this video. Gets my heart rate going.

Herks are awesome birds. Love seeing them get a workout low and slow.

Notice the full control deflections at low speed to get the beast to roll and listen to all the whining from Bitching Betty.

I like the coordination of the crew too. Left seater is chatty but right seater is there with "continue" at every warning from the aircraft.

Super job. Rock and roll.

http://vimeo.com/m/32377125
 
Great design,, newly refitted with Allison AE 2100 with the 8 blade Hamilton standard prop producing 11,000 SHP each
 
Incredible birds.

Wyoming Guard has a radar reflector parked next to a taxiway at CYS that they use to create their own instrument approaches out of, and they have a standing waiver to land on the taxiway for narrow combat strip landing practice out of those approaches.

Would love to see that done from inside the aircraft. It's darn impressive from outside.
 
The amazing maneuverability of the C130. Totally amazing. Would have loved that ride.
 
This is so beautiful. One of my all time favorite bird. Thanks!
 
Aviation awesomeness. Thanks

Looked like lots of full-yoke travel, even on turn to final.

What was he concerned about at 6:15? Show length?

cool, can see la Tour d'Eiffel at points.
 
They've been doing amazing things with that airframe since it first flew. Quite a bird.
 
What was he concerned about at 6:15? Show length?

Yeah, they only get a limited time. You could hear the air boss/controller counting down minutes for them at 2 minutes and 1 minute.

I believe they have to be down and off the runway in their allotted time at Paris. Very structured.

Lots of demos to get through and the big bucks folks get cranky if something gets bumped off the schedule.
 
Did anybody else catch the computer calling "minimums" .......


As the wheels touched the runway!
 
Did anybody else catch the computer calling "minimums" .......
As the wheels touched the runway!

If it's like the one I'm familiar with,you dial in the (radar derived) altitude you want for the approach ie 200' for most ils's....maybe 400' for a non-precision approach.
I'd bet it was cranked to zero to reduce some of the cockpit squawking.
 
If it's like the one I'm familiar with,you dial in the (radar derived) altitude you want for the approach ie 200' for most ils's....maybe 400' for a non-precision approach.
I'd bet it was cranked to zero to reduce some of the cockpit squawking.
Okay, pilot controlled. That makes sense, though it reduces it's effectiveness as a cross-check.
 
Those Herc pilots are sh*t hot.

What a great plane.
 
Looked like some pretty fun high bank lazy eights. He had his hands full. Thanks for posting this, way cool.
 
What's the magnifying lens looking glass thing in front of the pilot?
 
That's really amazing to me how easily he can hit the stop on the aileron. I've only gone to full deflection in an airplane a couple times, and it took a heck of a lot more effort than that! Must be a really lightly loaded control-feel computer.

If it's like the one I'm familiar with,you dial in the (radar derived) altitude you want for the approach ie 200' for most ils's....maybe 400' for a non-precision approach.
I'd bet it was cranked to zero to reduce some of the cockpit squawking.

Okay, pilot controlled. That makes sense, though it reduces it's effectiveness as a cross-check.

Indeed, it sounded a lot like the RadAlt (Radar Altimeter).

Grant, for a nice VFR day, the radalt doesn't have much use. A lot of guys will just dial it down to 0 for exactly the reason Dave mentioned...shuts it the hell up. If you're on an approach, though, you set it to whatever the mins are AGL - the system has a small downward facing radar on the belly of the plane that usually starts displaying your radar height above the ground at 2,500'. All the RadAlt equipped planes I've ever flown have a little light that comes on when you pass whatever altitude you have set, and most have a voice that enunciates "minimums." Many airplanes have the voice also count down "200...100...50...40...30...20...10" (and in the Airbusii it then says "retard, retard," which draws many laughs from all the jumpseaters!).
 
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777 pilot buddy of mine says with the very accurate Atlantic and Pacific tracks with GPS these days, and RVSM, he's seen the Radar Altimeter read a couple thousand feet in cruise in the Flight Levels until the 747 below him, slowly flew forward out from under his 777 in cruise.

He says it's both cool and eerie to watch. All of a sudden it starts indicating when they're right below, and then later it starts rapidly winding up and shuts down as the tail of the widebody below them squeaks ahead.

Doesn't happen as often now that the US and UK started recommending random one or two mile lateral offsets from the North Atlantic tracks to one side to minimize the possibility however faint of a controller goof and a mid-air of two aircraft assigned the same altitude.

Usually easiest to have happen with a 747 on the track below them, over either ocean. Size helps so the Radar has a target. ;)
 
He also jokes, "When the 777 says '30' you think about flaring."

"When it says '20' you might consider it a little more and give the tiniest pull."

"When it says '10' you give a very small pull and think a little more about it while it greases on."

"You start flaring at 30 or higher and you'll bounce like C-150 with a student pilot."

"Only difference is you'll have hit hard enough to activate the squat switches and deploy the auto-spoilers and that second landing is going to cause the need for dental work."

LOL.

He also says...

"Don't even think about big aileron control deflections right near touchdown in the 777. Being a swept wing jet the spoiler will pop up on that side, the wing will drop, huge adverse yaw will swing the outboard wing forward and you'll do nothing but just try to keep it from oscillating back and forth until the squat switches pop all the spoilers up and the aviating ceases and the tires take up the side loads."

There's a couple of great examples on YouTube. One landing at Narita Japan is a textbook Pilot Induced Oscillation so bad that he bounces the nosegear too, trying to "plant" it and stop the lateral PIO.

Overcontrolling during landing in a big swept wing jet looks seriously ill-advised. ;)

This all came up in conversation after I got a chance to fly the 747-400 sim. Until the conversation I couldn't figure out why the crosswind landings were such a pain in the butt and the yaw problems that seemed to come up on every one of them but a lucky few.

The ah-ha moment was the "swept wing" part and him asking, "What happens when you yaw something with swept wings?"

Light bulb went on. Duuuuuh... One wing is now less "swept" than the other and more lift is produced on that side. Up goes that wing. Pilot corrects, spoiler pops out, ya whose the other way, and back and forth we go...
 
Thanks for posting..

I would like to check it out but vimeo says that this is a private video. Do I need to create an account on vimeo to watch this video or is there another way to view it ?

Thanks for the help..

Jon
 
It looks like its status changed. Sorry all who hadn't seen it yet. Don't know why they pulled it. :(
 
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