Hangar Move Advice

wanttaja

wanttaja

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Ron Wanttaja
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Moving the CONTENTS of the hangar...not the hangar itself.

After ~44 years of living in the Seattle area and ~30 years in our current house, we're moving about 180 miles away (east side of Portland OR). We're not in a rush, probably won't change homes until late June.

I've managed to scarf up a hangar. This'll be the second-longest trip I've taken in my little open-cockpit airplane, but I'm kind of looking forward to it. Just need a nice clear day.

What I'm NOT looking forward to is shifting the OTHER contents of the hangar to the new place. I'm contemplating a few trips to the trash dumpster, but there's a ton of stuff that'll need to get switched to the new hangar.

Trouble is, this is a fox and chicken and sack of corn problem....how to move the hangar stuff, and when to move the airplane. I don't want to move the airplane last, in case I need last-minute access to tools before departure. Yet it's unfortunate to move the plane down south and not have access to it until the actual household move.

Then there's the physical move of the other contents of the hangar. I could:

1. Have the moving company load the contents of the hangar before coming by the house. Unload the hangar goodies into the new home's garage, and contract for another company to take it to the airport.

2. Instead of sending the moving company to the hangar, transfer the hangar contents to my current home's garage before they show up. Still need to contract to take the goods to the hangar from the new house. Also, the airport workbench is heavy; me and most of my friends have aged past the point where we should be hauling stuff up ramps.

3. Contract the hangar goodies as a separate move entirely; have them deliver directly to the new hangar. Problem here is arranging to be on hand when the goods are delivered; it's a 45-minute drive from the new house and timing will be awkward.

I'm sure others have faced the same problem. Any advice?

Ron Wanttaja
 
Are there any smaller "guys with a truck" kind of movers that can move the contents for less than the big moving companies, which is what I think you're describing with "moving company." You can have them load up 99% of the stuff, follow them to the new hangar and then they can unload and put everything in place.

And I get wanting to keep tools... But don't you know a neighbor that has tools? Or worse case, you go to the shop (assuming there is one at your current Airport). The few basic tools you might keep you can just take with you in the plane, but will you really need more than that?
 
Do you have friends with tools at the current airport? That could alleviate the issue of waiting to move the airplane, especially if the weather decides to be crapola for a while around the rest of the move.

Otherwise, I wouldn’t think it would require a huge tool kit if something crops up that won’t let you fly the airplane. And if it does require a huge tool kit, I’m guessing that would delay things enough to make the rest of your post moot.

As far as the rest of it, I’d probably move the house and the hangar separately. A lot of monkey motion to coordinate both in one.
 
Consider PODS type move. You load the container on your timeline, they pickup/deliver and you unload on your timeline.

Some will even provide day labor to load under your supervision.
 
Concerning PODS

Only if you don't mind a 2-3 week delivery wait.
 
Any young guys taking lessons that would love a chance for a ride in your plane? if its just lifting a few heavy items into a U haul I bet some younger guys would love the opportunity to feel an open cockpit for just a small bit of lifting. I know I'd trade that. Obviously don't violate any FARS.

Watch out with some of these moving companies. Many of them have list of stuff they won't move. Cleaning chemicals, Oils, ANYTHING that once housed gas, Golf balls. It all varies by the company.
 
I moved from my hangar in CJR to my house in NC. I had not only my accumulated stuff in the hangar but also there was tons of stuff left in there from the previous occupant.
(A deceased friend of mine). What I did was load up my truck with everything I wanted. I called 1-800-GotJunk to clean out everything else.

The only problem I had was that halfway down to NC, the engine, as we say in NASCAR, blowed up.
 
Agronomist said:
Watch out with some of these moving companies. Many of them have list of stuff they won't move. Cleaning chemicals, Oils, ANYTHING that once housed gas, Golf balls. It all varies by the company.
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Golf balls.??
 
When I moved across the country (again) I had the moving company pick up at both locations. I had pulled the airplane out of the hangar along with all the stuff I'd need for the trip out west. "Everything goes" is easy for the movers - just mark it "hangar" and deliver to the hangar at the other end. Worked out like a champ.
 
Zeldman said:
Golf balls.??
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Maybe they mean 'Happy Fun Ball'

"Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball. Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs: itching, vertigo, dizziness, tingling in extremities, loss of balance or coordination, slurred speech, temporary blindness, profuse sweating, or heart palpitations.
If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

"Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin. When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability. Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space. Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
 
TCABM said:
Consider PODS type move. You load the container on your timeline, they pickup/deliver and you unload on your timeline.

Some will even provide day labor to load under your supervision.
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Cool! This sounds pretty good. Once I've got the plane to the new airport, there's no rush to get the hangar goodies. I'll pay a bit extra to have some husky folks load the thing.

Understand the delays involved, but hopefully I won't need a drill press and a flying-wire-jig in the time it takes to get the PODS unloaded at the new place.

Amazing coincidence: found out one of my editors has his plane based on the next row at my new airport. I can borrow tools from him, if needed.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions, folks....

*Now*, need to figure out what to do with my 40-year-old mini-pickup and my console-sized "Space Wars" video game from the 1970s....

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
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*Now*, need to figure out what to do with my 40-year-old mini-pickup and my console-sized "Space Wars" video game from the 1970s....

Ron Wanttaja
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Put arcade in truck bed. Drive truck to new place.
 
Rene said:
Maybe they mean 'Happy Fun Ball'

"Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball. Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs: itching, vertigo, dizziness, tingling in extremities, loss of balance or coordination, slurred speech, temporary blindness, profuse sweating, or heart palpitations.
If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

"Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin. When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability. Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space. Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
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Now I am afraid, very afraid...
 
TCABM said:
Put arcade in truck bed. Drive truck to new place.
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Doooood. That's how it got here in the FIRST place.
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Bought it when we lived in a mobile home, couldn't get it in the door. Stored it in a friend's basement for two years, until we got a house in ~1985. Used the truck to shuttle it around.

Had a lot of fun with it there, but it's been used as (mostly) storage since we moved in the current house ten years later. Haven't fired it up in that time. I've tried a local pinball museum, but they don't seem interested.

Truck is a 1984 Nissan 720 (non-crew cab) that we bought new in '84, has just 150,000 miles on it. I'm inclined just to donate it, but some collector pages put a value on the truck of more than I originally paid for it. But then, that's the internet.

It's been tucked into the back of the hangar for ~30 years, driven only once or twice a year to haul stuff to the dump or bring plywood home.
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Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
Doooood. That's how it got here in the FIRST place.
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Bought it when we lived in a mobile home, couldn't get it in the door. Stored it in a friend's basement for two years, until we got a house in ~1985. Used the truck to shuttle it around.

Had a lot of fun with it there, but it's been used as (mostly) storage since we moved in the current house ten years later. Haven't fired it up in that time. I've tried a local pinball museum, but they don't seem interested.

Truck is a 1984 Nissan 720 (non-crew cab) that we bought new in '84, has just 150,000 miles on it. I'm inclined just to donate it, but some collector pages put a value on the truck of more than I originally paid for it. But then, that's the internet.

It's been tucked into the back of the hangar for ~30 years, driven only once or twice a year to haul stuff to the dump or bring plywood home.
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Ron Wanttaja
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Sell ‘em both on FB marketplace.
 
EvilEagle said:
That truck would probably go pretty quick on bringatrailer.com
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That truck might even go pretty quick right here. Aside from the stickers in the windows and the rusty front valence, looks pretty straight and unmolested.
 
wanttaja said:
Doooood. That's how it got here in the FIRST place.
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Bought it when we lived in a mobile home, couldn't get it in the door. Stored it in a friend's basement for two years, until we got a house in ~1985. Used the truck to shuttle it around.

Had a lot of fun with it there, but it's been used as (mostly) storage since we moved in the current house ten years later. Haven't fired it up in that time. I've tried a local pinball museum, but they don't seem interested.

Truck is a 1984 Nissan 720 (non-crew cab) that we bought new in '84, has just 150,000 miles on it. I'm inclined just to donate it, but some collector pages put a value on the truck of more than I originally paid for it. But then, that's the internet.

It's been tucked into the back of the hangar for ~30 years, driven only once or twice a year to haul stuff to the dump or bring plywood home.
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Ron Wanttaja
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There is an older and slightly oranger version (complete with "DATSUN" badges) floating around in my extended family. Zero creature comforts and completely indestructible. Probably close to a half-a-million miles by now.
 
Rene said:
There is an older and slightly oranger version (complete with "DATSUN" badges) floating around in my extended family. Zero creature comforts and completely indestructible. Probably close to a half-a-million miles by now.
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Other than the absolute lack of safety features, the '70's and 80's compact trucks are wonderful. Very handy and economical tools for the homeowner or airplane builder.
 
wanttaja said:
Cool! This sounds pretty good. Once I've got the plane to the new airport, there's no rush to get the hangar goodies. I'll pay a bit extra to have some husky folks load the thing.

Understand the delays involved, but hopefully I won't need a drill press and a flying-wire-jig in the time it takes to get the PODS unloaded at the new place.

Amazing coincidence: found out one of my editors has his plane based on the next row at my new airport. I can borrow tools from him, if needed.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions, folks....

*Now*, need to figure out what to do with my 40-year-old mini-pickup and my console-sized "Space Wars" video game from the 1970s....

Ron Wanttaja
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Also look up the Uhaul U-boxes. Roughly 6’x8’ each, good for 2000 pounds, can be self-load or they will load/unload, and they will set them on a little trailer for free if you want to drive it to the hangar yourself.

All pricing can be previewed on their website. Was a cheaper option for me.
 
Rene said:
Jus' wondering how having a pax on the wing will affect the W&B numbers. :)
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flyingron said:
That's going to be a bit dodgy in the single-seat Fly Baby.
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I completely missed it was a single seater. I was thinking Starduster too...
Zeldman said:
Golf balls.??
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My dad has had 2 neighbors give him buckets of golf balls when moving with various companies. They both said the moving companies wouldn't move them. Not 100% sure on the reason although I have my suspicions. I have a feeling the houses being on a golf course triggers the reminder when scheduling.
 
In the Richmond Air Museum there's a Consolidated Vultee that had all it's voids filled with ping pong balls. The idea was that it would be more bouyant if it went down in one of the oceanic crossings.

When we had a flood in my house. Servpro showed up with 108 wine boxes. They packed all the wine up for me, loaded it on the truck, but I had to drive the truck because they weren't allowed to transport alcohol. Once we got to the cold storage, they unloaded it for me.
 
yeah, I'm pretty sure they all will pick up from two different addresses and drop off at two different addresses...no problem
You'll just need to consider and coordinate which is 1st and which is 2nd on each end.

and I understand the desire to have tools handy at both ends, but if you think about it like minimalist packing for a trip...I mean if you pack light on a trip, make sure you also have your credit card.... then if it turns cold while you're there, it's no big deal to swing by a store to pick up a jacket....
so in the same vein, in the unlikely event that something happens after your tools are moved, you can always borrow tools or hire someone.....
 
Brad W said:
and I understand the desire to have tools handy at both ends, but if you think about it like minimalist packing for a trip...I mean if you pack light on a trip, make sure you also have your credit card.... then if it turns cold while you're there, it's no big deal to swing by a store to pick up a jacket....
so in the same vein, in the unlikely event that something happens after your tools are moved, you can always borrow tools or hire someone.....
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Actually, I'm not worried about tools at the destination. I'm hoping to fly the plane down to Oregon 2-3 weeks prior to moving the household, so it'll just sit idle in that time, anyway. I was very lucky to actually FIND a hangar, and want to get the plane stuck into it early. Actually, the only tools I'll need for routine flying is the oil funnel and a few bottles of oil.

In an incredible coincidence, it turns out that one of my editors keeps his plane in the next row at the same airport. He's not only offered to lend me tools as needed, but to fly me back to Seattle after I drop the Fly Baby off. Sounds like a good crowd at that airport.

Ron Wanttaja
 
Rene said:
Maybe they mean 'Happy Fun Ball'

"Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball. Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs: itching, vertigo, dizziness, tingling in extremities, loss of balance or coordination, slurred speech, temporary blindness, profuse sweating, or heart palpitations.
If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

"Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin. When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability. Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space. Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
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Happy Fun Ball is about twice as old as the person in your profile picture. :idea:

wanttaja said:
Doooood. That's how it got here in the FIRST place.
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Bought it when we lived in a mobile home, couldn't get it in the door. Stored it in a friend's basement for two years, until we got a house in ~1985. Used the truck to shuttle it around.

Had a lot of fun with it there, but it's been used as (mostly) storage since we moved in the current house ten years later. Haven't fired it up in that time. I've tried a local pinball museum, but they don't seem interested.
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You might try contacting 1984 in Springfield, MO. Cool place, owned by a couple of brothers who are pilots. They might be interested in it, especially if it's working but maybe even if it's not. Parts for arcade games of that vintage are getting mighty scarce.
 
Update....

Got the hangar move set up. Tried PODS, but had trouble getting the phone center to understand the weird aspects of the move. Instead, found that Pack-Rats had a facility just two blocks from the airport. Went there, explained thing to the manager, and he gave me the "magic words" to include when I called the Pack-Rats service number. Everything's jake, and it's scheduled to move on 2 June. I hope to fly the plane down the week before it.

Cost was $2,500, including their crew loading the container. That was for a ~180-mile move. Storage cost is $250/month, I might not be ready for the hangar stuff at first.

Oh, and the video game? TCABM suggested Facebook Marketplace. Listed it, and it was taken in less than two hours.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Now I just have to work out how to move everything in our 2500-square foot house.....

Ron Wanttaja
 
You never know how much stuff you have until you move it!
 
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