Ground School - Theory vs Real Life

Discussion in 'Pilot Training' started by Chris Fischer, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Chris Fischer

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    So...is this one of those "do as I say, not as I do" situations? :eek::eek::eek:

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  2. Chris Fischer

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    Hopefully it's better than it looks to my newbie eye. After all, none of those planes look like GA aircraft - so maybe they're well above the effects of the hurricane?
     
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    What is the ground school theory that they're violating?
     
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    Theory was a a bad choice of words. I should have said "conventional wisdom vs real life". That's closer to what I meant.
     
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    Ok...what conventional wisdom are they violating?
     
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    Maybe none...I realized after I posted that they were likely far above the weather...hence my second post. I caught is soon enough that I would have just deleted the post before anybody saw it, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. I must be more careful in the future!
     
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    You're just looking at a big scary image that makes it seem worse than it is. Those flights are not winging it, I'm sure. Each specific flight is operating within its own criteria. If you pulled up the metars for their destinations, it probably wouldn't seem so bad.

    It's not a dumb question, it just could've been worded differently.
     
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    I'm sure that the vast majority of those symbols are airlines and corporate planes and not just Skyhawk drivers milling around at night near a hurricane.
    From watching the news last night, I'm guessing the eye landfall was about 9:30-10:00 pm last night and that most of those symbols are around Houston, here's a Metar from about that time.

    KIAH 260153Z 07018G28KT 10SM -RA BKN017 BKN120 OVC200 26/23 A2981 RMK AO2 PK WND 10029/0133 RAB52 SLP095 P0000 T02560228

    Sometimes you can't draw too many conclusions from only one picture.
     
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    You just made coffee come out of my nose!

    [EDIT] That's now my new wallpaper.
     
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    A lot of times the radar apps for whatever reason, show storms worse than they actually are.
     
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    @denverpilot ... just how much time did you spend playing WoW?
     
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    Actually, almost none. Friends were so horribly addicted to it, I could see it and realize I simply couldn't make or even have that much free time to stare at a game.

    Not that I haven't wasted copious amounts of my life on other things, just not WoW.

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    having a little trouble with that last bit...

    PK WND 10029/0133 RAB52 SLP095 P0000 T02560228

    I see Peak Wind, think it is from 100deg @ 29 knots? then RAIN BEGINS (52 min past current hour?) Sea Level Pressure = 095?...nope. Lost.

    Could someone let me know what it meant?
     
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    St Maartin just got overrun by Irma:

    TNCM 061121Z 0612/0712 300120G140KT 1SM +RA BKN015 OVC030
    FM061500 25060G80KT 5SM -SHRA BKN025 BKN050
    FM061900 18035G50KT P6SM -SHRA SCT025 BKN060
    FM070000 15020G30KT P6SM FEW025 SCT060 AMD NOT SKED

    Peak Wind 100 deg and 29 kts at 0133Z
    Rain Began at 52 minutes after the hour.
    SLP095 = sea level pressure 1009.5 mb (? not sure about this)
    P0000 = precipitation 0 inches during the last hour
    T02560228 = temp 25.6C , dewpoint 22.8C
     
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    Thanks for that!
     
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    Hey Bob, teach me some cool riffs, I'll teach ya weather. Wait, I need to learn weather myself.
     
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