Grand Canyan-Moab best trip plan help

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  1. rhvpilot

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    Hello guys,

    I have been looking for family fun location reasonable distance from San Francisco.. during spring break.

    Grand Canyon seems to be very interesting... please help planning the trip..
    Here are my thoughts,

    Somebody said, fly Grand Canyon corridor, follow the river to page then go to monument valley... I wonder may be we should fly to Sedona explore some local kids attractions, spend night in Sedona, next morning fly Grand Canyon corridor (should i land in KGCN or follow river to page and then finally land monument valley. I hope smoother air in morning and afternoon. ... may be then should go to MOAB Rent a car, stay in MOAB see arches etc.
    will greatly appreciate the feedback
     
  2. kmacht

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    I can't speak to flying between the sites but we did a family tip last year to do the "grand circle". It was myself, my wife, and our 12 year old daughter. Previous family vacations were always relaxing trips such as Disney, a Cruise, or an all inclusive. For this trip we flew into vegas and then spent 10 days driving from park to park and hiking at least one trail in each one. It was one of the best trips we have ever done as a family. In order we hit up Zion, Bryce Canyon, Capitol Reef, Canyonlands, Arches, Dead Horse state park, Monument Valley, Grand Canyon, and Hoover dam. Our favorite by far was Zion. Bryce Canyon was a close second but the hiking there is much harder due to a lack of shade. Grand Canyon was almost a let down after visiting the other parks. It was just too commercialized and crowded. We enjoyed the trip so much last year that we are going to Yosemite and Sequoia this summer for another family hiking vacation.
     
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    I find the North rim of the canyon far more enjoyable than the South rim. And Zion is my favorite actionable Park.
     
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    If you don't yet have a place to stay for Yosemite you might want to consider our AirBnb at Pine Mountain Lake (E45) - https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/3511358?source_impression_id=p3_1566196550_3lpL90S9TFYP8QVw.

    I'm uncertain about the rental car situation. You might check here for this:
    https://calpilots.org/columbia-and-pine-mountain-lake-airport-have-rental-cars-2/

    Nice thing about staying at Pine Mountain Lake is the short, scenic, 26 mile to the gates at Yosemite - and after a day of exploring jump in our beautiful lake with it's white sandy beach - a five minute walk from our cabin. We have an amazing golf course as well!
     
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    Nice looking place. We looked at a few Airbnb's but ended up getting an overpriced tent at camp curry. I am hoping to get a permit for half dome through the pre-season lottery. If I do get the permit my wife does not like the idea of getting up at 4am to drive me to the trail head. From the camp it is a short 1/2 mile walk to the start of the trail so she can sleep while I start hiking. She and my daughter plan on taking the bus to an easier hike that day.

    Keith
     
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    Hard to go wrong with any of those ideas. Zion park is nice too, adjust for weather.
     
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    Definitely, see the Utah parks, they are spectacular. Early or late season is best; Summer in the desert is a series of hazards, at least for this Midwesterner. For the next trip, I can recommend some of the smaller places in Idaho. Craters of the Moon is a national park now. It's foreboding and dark, but unique for hikers used to the colorful parks further South. Another, smallish (for Western US) park is City of Rocks. Lots of climbable rocks and easy hiking trails. If you are inspired by history, you can check out some of the trails blazed by Lewis and Clark. A couple of years ago, I tried to drive the Lemhi Pass, Idaho to Montana. I was a bit late in the season; gained a new respect for the Corps of Discovery (and gratitude for hunters who directed me to the right Forest Service road to get back to lower ground).

    As for flying, Idaho has dozens of small airports, most of which are accessible to weekend pilots.
    HTH
     
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    What ages are the kids? Do they like to hike?
    What time of year?
     
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    Here's a video of a flight last month, northbound through the Zuni Point Corridor over the Grand Canyon, and a landing at Marble Canyon (L41).



    Marble Canyon is fun as a quick stop. Grab lunch at the Restaurant across the street from the airstrip, where you pay your landing fee, then walk five minutes to the spectacular Navajo Bridge over the Colorado River. L41 is the only place where you can legally land within the Grand Canyon SFRA.
     
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    If you do fly the canyon please make sure you check and plan with the Grand Canyon VFR chart. They are now updating after literally years of no updates.
     
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    This is good one, thanks for sharing the video. How is turbulence after lunch?
     
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    4 kids from 10-15 yrs of ages, and my wife..
    the like hikes but I never know when they are going to come to sudden stop and declare “tired”
    In other words, love nature no long hikes, and must have access to amenities.. also enjoy playing in snow and on lake.

    Times of year is usually when they get break from school.
     
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    First of all, I would not go anywhere until coronavirus is dead.
    Sedona is great and has lots of great areas to explore by car and on foot. Plenty of short hikes. This is my favorite site for choosing hikes in that area:
    http://www.efmer.eu/trails/usa/az/sedona/sedona.html

    Flagstaff can be done as a day trip from Sedona, or you can fly up and rent a car at the FBO (super nice folks). The town is nice to walk around and has good restaurants and botanic garden. The highlights around town are the Wupatki NM, Sunset Crater Volcano National Monument, and (my favorite) the trail to Humphreys peak. You dont have to hike all the way to the top to enjoy great views.

    Page has enough sites around to spend a month. I would go to the Horseshoe bend, a slot canyon, and do a lake tour (the best one is all the way to Rainbow Arch, but it's a full day).

    Moab also has enough things to keep you busy for months. Besides the obvious, I recommend the Behind the Rocks hike, and Poison Spider Mesa. If you are into mountain biking, the best thrill is the Porcupine rim trail. Corona arch is easy and gorgeous.

    Flying from Flagstaff, over Lake Powell, then national parks around Moab is one of the most beautiful sites in the world. Enjoy.
     
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    Very helpful, I appreciate... Thanks for heads up on Corona virus..
    will post pics if end up going there anyway..
     
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    Depending on what you mean by “dead”, that could be a very long time.

    Personally I think flying cross-countries in the US and trying to follow the CDC recommendations when dealing with other people should be good enough. Unless you are in a vulnerable population.
     
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    You can also just leave the center area of the South Rim and all the commercial and tourists disappear, or hike down a couple miles+.