General aviation at secured airports

JBHusted

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I've done all my training at KSWO (towered from 0800 to 2000). Park in the lot, walk through an unlocked gate, walk to the airplane, leave.

If, theoretically, I had a plane hangered at LAX (or KTVC, which is much smaller but still has regular airline traffic), would the procedure be the same? Park, walk through a gate, get in the plane, and leave. . .
 
No... Fencing are going up all over. Key cards are becoming more common place. At LAX? Well, since it shares terrafirma with the DoD, expect the highest levels of aviation security.
 
I was based at IAD for years. To get to my plane I walked into the FBO (a 24 hour operation), smiled at the girl at the desk she pushed a button that allowed me to walk through the doors to the ramp. I guess I could have applied for a SIDA badge (I had one at APA ages ago) but there really wasn't much cause when there was always someone there.

Getting in is usually a little easier. Nobody stops you on the way out typically.
 
I kept my plane in a hangar at Oakland, (KOAK) for a time. To access my plane I was required to do a full FBI background check where they took finger prints from all my fingers and thumbs.

Once I got the OK from the feds, I then had to attend a silly class. Something like traffic school, where they had this 1980s video about jet blast, where you can and can't go and how to identify a terrorist. When you passed the written test for this class, (it was open book and really easy) I was photographed and issued a key card badge that was good for two years.

You were required to wear this badge around your neck and have it visible at all times while on airport property. If you didn't you could be fined and enforcement actions taken. There where cameras everywhere and patrols by HLS, TSA and the FAA. Basically bored mall cops and so they would look for infractions and ask questions. I was never overly hassled though in the year and half I kept my plane there.

If you wanted to drive your car to the hangar, you had to attend a different class and take another test. Then you registered all your vehicles with the airport and was issued special stickers for your vehicles. When passing in or out of the gate, you had to stop and block the gate until it finally closed all the way. You had to do this, even when someone was behind you on the inside of the fence wanting to go out. Letting two cars pass through the gate was strictly prohibited. Remember, you were on camera, so everyone complied and understood.

Motorcycles, scooters, bicycles, skateboards were all prohibited on airport property. You could drive your car, but you could not walk in the "movement area" IIRC. A lot of rules and it all cost you some money. Being able to keep my plane near my house- totally worth it.

Funny story about the Oakland 'high security"- One night a drunken yahoo from outside the airport drove a full sized van through the fence onto the airport on North Field (the GA side) in the middle of the night, drove all over the place and then passed out. He then woke up and realizing where he was and what he'd done he ran away. The van left in between the runways and the hole in the fence wasn't discovered until the next day. What he had done wasn't known until they reviewed the tapes. :rofl::mad2::dunno:

Now I'm at Byron (C83) and it's a county owned airport with no real commercial operations to speak of. It' pretty much just a hobbyist's airport. We do have a real fence all the way around with cameras and they do keep it locked, but it's relaxed. You can get around any way you want. Motorcycle, bicycle or skateboard. No background check, no classes, no costs. Life is good.

I like it much better where I am, but if I had to live in Oakland again, I would absolutely jump through all the hoops to have my plane close by. It was goofy, and a bit of a pain, but it wasn't all that bad or expensive. The hangar rent there was actually cheap.
 
Our airport is a rural small town field. We are in the process of building a fence , but that is more for wildlife then anything else.

Since I work at a flight school I have to do a yearly TSA course on the AOPA website. It takes all of 5 mins by clicking past eveything. :rolleyes2:

KLIT is like every major commerical aiport. When I worked there a few summers ago I had to get a SIDA badge and attend a class on what not to do. I didn't mind and it only wasted a few minutes of my day using the doors.
 
...they took finger prints from all my fingers and thumbs.

The thumb is also a finger!
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Usually at towered fields such as a smaller class C or even a class B, the General Aviation aircraft are parked at FBO's like Landmark, Atlantic, Wilson, Tac-Air etc. so you would walk through those FBO's to get out to the aircraft kind of like a terminal. Instead of just parking your car at the airport FBO and walking through a gate onto the ramp. Also because its private and no commercial, there isn't your standard TSA checkpoints. This may not apply to all airports, just some.
 
Different airports have different TSA classifications, depending on the amount of commercial activity. In general, airports are working harder to segregate the private facilities from the commercial ones, but that takes time because it may involve building new aprons, moving hangars etc.

There are many commercial airports where there is simply a red line painted on the pavement to reflect the commercial area, and the "training" for private operations is simply the admonishment to not cross the red line.
 
Our remote non-towered field again has scheduled commuter service and now TAS. I have to buy a new badge every year to drive to my hangar. I had to send away for another form of ID, TSA won't accept a pilots license.
 
Depends. You'll probably need an ID badge to get through the gates. I fly out of a busy Class D and there are several gate accessible areas around the airport. You have the scan your badge to get through
 
I am at a class C. Not long after 9/11 they moved our tee hangars to the opposite side of the field, away from the airlines. You need a background check and they give you an ID badge and a number code for the gate you drive through gate. I excpect someday you will no longer be able to drive to your hanger.
 
BWI is one of the most ridiculous. The FBO is miles away from the airline stuff. Even a massive runway separates the operations, yet they insist on full escort for pax and crew anytime the pilot is outside the footprint of the plane.

So, walking out they won't buzz you through until the special escort is there to watch you. Coming in, well, they can't really stop you so you walk in. I don't use emoticons very much but this airport deserves it. :mad2:
 
BWI is one of the most ridiculous. The FBO is miles away from the airline stuff. Even a massive runway separates the operations, yet they insist on full escort for pax and crew anytime the pilot is outside the footprint of the plane.

So, walking out they won't buzz you through until the special escort is there to watch you. Coming in, well, they can't really stop you so you walk in. I don't use emoticons very much but this airport deserves it. :mad2:

Try getting two young Air Force MPs to let you walk to your plane 50 feet away even when your wearing a full access badge.

I had to go get the official transport vehicle, aka a "golf cart", and a CAP cadet before they allowed me to access my own plane.

All of this to get a box of flyers and a folding table.
 
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