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Youtube's algorithm thought that I should watch this video...so like a puppet, I did
I just wish I had known about this 30 years ago when I was using sectional and low en-route charts! I feel like this might have been useful.
 
I had several maps (not sectionals) that came like this. Pretty handy.
 
Brad W said:
Youtube's algorithm thought that I should watch this video...so like a puppet, I did
I just wish I had known about this 30 years ago when I was using sectional and low en-route charts! I feel like this might have been useful.
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My paper chart method was

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Howie and his wife were interesting people to talk to. I was a pretty big chart geek when I started in aviation and he would love to stand in the booth and talk about maps. His wife related him spreading out all the components all over the house (mostly the pool table) when putting together the first atlas.
 
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Brad W said:
Youtube's algorithm thought that I should watch this video...so like a puppet, I did
I just wish I had known about this 30 years ago when I was using sectional and low en-route charts! I feel like this might have been useful.
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30 years ago you should have figured WAC charts (Air Charts did) were the way to go VFR and the Jeppesen for IFR was well worth the money for the paper quality alone
 
Clip4 said:
30 years ago you should have figured WAC charts (Air Charts did) were the way to go VFR and the Jeppesen for IFR was well worth the money for the paper quality alone
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35 years ago I figured out that WAC charts don’t allow the level of accuracy I need when navigating VFR.
 
That's interesting. We never learned that trick on DMA quad maps. We just folded them to the area we needed, and in the unlikely chance that we needed to operate outside that area, we just refolded them as needed.

We did, however, frequently cut maps and tape them together when our ops overlapped quads. The suckiest deal was when we were in a corner area, and we needed to slice up four maps.
 
MauleSkinner said:
35 years ago I figured out that WAC charts don’t allow the level of accuracy I need when navigating VFR.
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We’re the meridian and parallels wrong? The highways missed drawn and labeled? Rivers flowed the wrong direction?

Air Charts books were WAC charts and they certainly had a large customer base that seemed to do just fine.
 
Clip4 said:
We’re the meridian and parallels wrong? The highways missed drawn and labeled? Rivers flowed the wrong direction?

Air Charts books were WAC charts and they certainly had a large customer base that seemed to do just fine.
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Too much stuff not on them.

I’m betting that the large customer base was included in the people I almost never saw at 600 AGL.
 
MauleSkinner said:
35 years ago I figured out that WAC charts don’t allow the level of accuracy I need when navigating VFR.
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I too was a sectional guy. I did like WAC's for planning though. Even had a wall of WAC with the string in my extra bedroom
 
Years ago I went to a Grumman American get together. They had games, like a “broken towbar“ race.

Another, for kids, was a chart folding competition. What made it interesting was folks were jostling the chairs they were seated in, plus others blew a fan on them, while someone else sprayed them with mist. And a fun time was had by all!
 
MauleSkinner said:
Too much stuff not on them.

I’m betting that the large customer base was included in the people I almost never saw at 600 AGL.
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If you flew a lot at 600 AGL, a topographical map may have been a better choice than a sectional because it shows all the hospitals and cemeteries.
 
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If you flew a lot at 600 AGL, a topographical map may have been a better choice than a sectional because it shows all the hospitals and cemeteries.
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As long as I didn’t follow highways, the amateurs weren’t a hazard.
 
Another old timer who used the Air Charts system. VFR charts were in a nice blue binder called Sky Prints. Found this internet photo - which happens to be from same year I got my first one. Fun memories!
 

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I just got sneezed and the plane turn some degree, now I'm flipping the damn chart. Which heading should I go.
 
Clip4 said:
We’re the meridian and parallels wrong? The highways missed drawn and labeled? Rivers flowed the wrong direction?

Air Charts books were WAC charts and they certainly had a large customer base that seemed to do just fine.
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Cartographic accuracy isn't an issue. A problem is that WACs were updated less frequently than sectionals and they didn't have midcycle notams to update them. They also omitted a lot of information useful to VFR pilots.

Howie used to put in the insets either from the TAC (for class Bs) or the sectional (for class C) in the WAC atlases.

Toward the end, he did do a two volume set of bound sectionals. I still have one of those kicking around here somewhere.

Howie's updating system for the books and plates was a bit strange, but technically legal (and really let error prone than what the old pre-Q service Jepp was).
 
flyingron said:
Cartographic accuracy isn't an issue. A problem is that WACs were updated less frequently than sectionals and they didn't have midcycle notams to update them. They also omitted a lot of information useful to VFR pilots.

Howie used to put in the insets either from the TAC (for class Bs) or the sectional (for class C) in the WAC atlases.

Toward the end, he did do a two volume set of bound sectionals. I still have one of those kicking around here somewhere.

Howie's updating system for the books and plates was a bit strange, but technically legal (and really let error prone than what the old pre-Q service Jepp was).
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I feel confident you were diligently updating your sectional charts from the Chart Bulletins penciling in all the information.
 
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