Falsification

[dp342b]

will the faa charge me with falsification of medical records if i can't remember something from a long time ago?

 

[midlifeflyer]

will the faa charge me with falsification of medical records if i can't remember something from a long time ago?

Hard to say. If you look at the questions and instructions, most of the things the FAA is concerned about are things you'd remember. Hard to forget you had a broken arm when you were 6. Besides, you've already disclosed things when you did you last application, so grab a copy of that as a starting point. If you need to, you can order it from the FAA.

 

[bbchien]

Can't remember ADD pills or depression meds and it turns out to be consequential to your already issued issuance, and they find out B4 you come clean-->near certaintly.

That you had wisdom teeth out.....--->hardlly
So, "it depends".
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[rhkennerly]

Really depends. What exactly? The FAA interfaces with a lot of databases, including NCIC & most state law enforcement looking for DUI & drug arrests as well as BWI—boating drunk. They are also plumbed into the VA or SSA (or both) to figure out who is getting a disability payment (not what the disability is exactly, but the fact that you’re so disabled that you get a check cut to you every month. They want to know how you can be 100% disabled and still pass a medical).

If you are concerned about a date, then there is some leeway. Say, if you are older and had a drunk arrest in the ‘80’s when you were 20, then put an approximate date and mark it with an * in the explanation or comment sections saying the date is approximate.

Conveniently forget the 3 yrs you did for “flying a key into Los Angeles?” That will get you into plenty of trouble.

But as with all things FAA, know the answer before you ask. Schedule an “advisory” appointment with the Medical examiner. Don’t put any drugs down or otherwise fill out the online form, just print it off for reference.

 

[rhkennerly]

There is, btw, an anonymous board here on POA devoted to these kinds of questions. Someplace you can talk freely.

 

[hindsight2020]

will the faa charge me with falsification of medical records if i can't remember something from a long time ago?

For the anecdotal nothingburgers most people on here fret and fidget over? No, you will not.

The "big stuff" tends to leave footprint in some sort of database (medical billing, govt databases et al) and could be discovered after the fact. Not that it will, but that it could. Those you likely won't get the benefit of the doubt when claiming lack of memory, even if the latter claim is true. Is that fair or morally consistent? Of course not, but life isn't fair.

Now tell us what kind of thing you're worried you're forgetting.

 

[dp342b]

For the anecdotal nothingburgers most people on here fret and fidget over? No, you will not.

The "big stuff" tends to leave footprint in some sort of database (medical billing, govt databases et al) and could be discovered after the fact. Not that it will, but that it could. Those you likely won't get the benefit of the doubt when claiming lack of memory, even if the latter claim is true. Is that fair or morally consistent? Of course not, but life isn't fair.

Now tell us what kind of thing you're worried you're forgetting.

The stuff I put on my initial application back in 2005.

 

[midlifeflyer]

The stuff I put on my initial application back in 2005.

You can look those up. Do it if you are worried about it. I knew someone who got dinged for missing something significant that was disclosed earlier. Would have likely been a nothing burger if disclosed with a “previously reported, no change” notation and a short discussion with the AME. Sadly, it turned out differently.

 

[Therookguy]

Really depends. What exactly? The FAA interfaces with a lot of databases, including NCIC & most state law enforcement looking for DUI & drug arrests as well as BWI—boating drunk. They are also plumbed into the VA or SSA (or both) to figure out who is getting a disability payment (not what the disability is exactly, but the fact that you’re so disabled that you get a check cut to you every month. They want to know how you can be 100% disabled and still pass a medical).

If you are concerned about a date, then there is some leeway. Say, if you are older and had a drunk arrest in the ‘80’s when you were 20, then put an approximate date and mark it with an * in the explanation or comment sections saying the date is approximate.

Conveniently forget the 3 yrs you did for “flying a key into Los Angeles?” That will get you into plenty of trouble.

But as with all things FAA, know the answer before you ask. Schedule an “advisory” appointment with the Medical examiner. Don’t put any drugs down or otherwise fill out the online form, just print it off for reference.

The "advisory" appointment is very useful. Unfortunately it cost me $180, but I used this to check with my examiner before I got my ratings from the VA that everything would be A-okay with him.

But definitely reference your old medical submissions. New stuff that wasn't on the forms 5-10 years ago shouldn't be popping up, by that I mean if you filed a form in 2010 and left out something minor in 2005 I would just keep leaving it off, unless it's something drastic that the FAA hates.

Don't ever lie about DUI or drug stuff. Don't lie about your VA disability rating. Easiest way for them to get you.

FAA really hates: depressants (sleep drugs), any mental health treatment whatsoever [unfortunate...], psychotic episodes, illicit drug use, diabetes, and debilitating heart conditions. Other than that you're mostly okay.

 

[midlifeflyer]

FAA really hates: depressants (sleep drugs), any mental health treatment whatsoever [unfortunate...], psychotic episodes, illicit drug use, diabetes, and debilitating heart conditions.

How much do they hate them? this much: I knew a pilot who got revoked. The trigger was saying “no” to a heart condition that was previously reported.