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I test drove a 4cyl....yes a 4cyl 2014 Impala yesterday.

Slooooooooow and the ac barely cooled the car down and it was only 75 out.

$27500 for that....yikes

Yes, I know it comes in a V6 too

Bail them out and this is what they make????;)

Way to trash the Impala name, like the Dodge Dart.
 
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It's all about the required EPA mileage numbers and number of cars they're allowed to sell of each level.

Indirect government mandated mediocrity. Everyone should drive an eco-****box.
 
Disappointing to hear. I rented a Cruze recently, 4 cylinder, and was very favorable impressed. Good fit & finish, handled well, quiet and quick.

I imagine that a 4-cylinder Impala is built because (1) the Masters in DC insist upon it, and (2) rental fleets.

Too bad, because the new Impala is a nice looking buggy.
 
I rented an Impala last year for a couple months while my hail damage was being repaired. It was fine, although I don't know if it was a 4 or 6-cylinder. I like the Cruze as a rental too.
 
We have a 2008 Impala with ~80k miles. I can set the cruise on 80 and get 30mpg. It's the V6 version. We're very happy with it (knock on wood).

I have been getting a Chevy Equinox as a rental for the past few trips. That thing is a dog with the 4 cyl.
 
us AAirways said:
I test drove a 4cyl....yes a 4cyl 2014 Impala yesterday.

Slooooooooow and the ac barely cooled the car down and it was only 75 out.

$27500 for that....yikes

Yes, I know it comes in a V6 too

Bail them out and this is what they make????;)
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You know, they also put a 4 cylinder in the Regal GS... except it is 2.0L turbo rated at 270 hp...

I've heard of occasional problems lately where some GM cars haven't been completely charged with AC refrigerant off the line - a problem easily corrected by the dealers.

I have a Cruze LTZ for my personal driver, and just spent a week in a rental Cruze LT. They're great cars. Could use a bit more power, and that is actually available through aftermarket tuning of the turbocharger and transmission for less than $500 (for another 20-25 hp and 20-25 lb-ft of torque). The Cruze LS (1.8L non-turbo) is a dog, and uses a lower quality suspension set up.
 
Given the bailout for a company that should have gone under, the arrogant entitlement mentality of the current executive team, the complete lunacy of the Chevy Volt, and the fact that the government will owns a substantial stake in the company that is going to result in a massive loss to taxpayers when it is sold, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would even consider a GM vehicle.

The Japanese are still king when it comes to building an enduring vehicle that people actually want to buy, and I'm not necessarily a fan of Japanese auto manufacturers. I think that Ford has earned equal standing based on merit in recent years, but the other two domestics have a long way to go before they can claim the same.


JKG
 
Everskyward said:
I rented an Impala last year for a couple months while my hail damage was being repaired. It was fine, although I don't know if it was a 4 or 6-cylinder. I like the Cruze as a rental too.
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I had an Impala three weeks ago in KC when I was there for a meeting and it was a great car. Even made me think that I might get one instead of the 328d I am jonesing for.
 
I drive a 2010 Malibu 4 cylinder that is uncharacteristically quick in my estimation. In cruise control on I-95 at 68ish, I'm consistently getting about 30 mpg. Same commute, same conditions, the 2006 I gave to my son never gave me better than 24mpg.

Impalas haven't grabbed me since the '68 SS my neighbor had.
 
SCCutler said:
Disappointing to hear. I rented a Cruze recently, 4 cylinder, and was very favorable impressed. Good fit & finish, handled well, quiet and quick.

I imagine that a 4-cylinder Impala is built because (1) the Masters in DC insist upon it, and (2) rental fleets.

Too bad, because the new Impala is a nice looking buggy.
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It does look great and the interior was nice too. I wish it was more of a drivers car though. Not bad, just not what I hoped it would be.
 
CJones said:
We have a 2008 Impala with ~80k miles. I can set the cruise on 80 and get 30mpg. It's the V6 version. We're very happy with it (knock on wood).

I have been getting a Chevy Equinox as a rental for the past few trips. That thing is a dog with the 4 cyl.
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Older Impalas are nice. I agree that the 4cyl Equinox are dogs too.
 
Gee, this reminds me of the certified vs experimental thread.

Cheers
 
I just bought two Prius C for my kids. not much in the driver feedback, and the handling is barely acceptable, but it's pretty quiet on the road, and they are getting 48-56MPG and it seats four, or two with lots of stuff in the hatch.

I don't even bother looking at GM cars.
 
I'll gladly have less MPGs for a car that has pretty good power and is *fun* to drive.
 
Well, consider that the other State Sponsored Automotive Company mass produced the Zhuguli . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAZ-2101

I will say that we are leasing a Volt for the wife's 37 mile Los Angeles commute . . . and it is saving us a ton of gas money.
 
wsuffa said:
Modern Freon will do that.
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Not true. Just had a 1990 van redone with the "new" freon and it works like a charm.

Have owned many GM products but will NEVER, EVER put another nickel into their pockets, EVER.
 
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MSPAviator said:
Automotive powerplant technology has come a long way in the past 5-10 years. Even at GM.
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2.25 HP from each cubic inch of displacement,, and make it out of a 100,000 mile warranty........ With absolute morons driving it..... Good *ucking luck...
 
comanchepilot said:
Well, consider that the other State Sponsored Automotive Company mass produced the Zhuguli . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAZ-2101

I will say that we are leasing a Volt for the wife's 37 mile Los Angeles commute . . . and it is saving us a ton of gas money.
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Sweet! How about a PIREP?

I think the Volt is a great idea...that needs to be built by Ford. That said, it's still a great idea for a commuter car.
 
us AAirways said:
It does look great and the interior was nice too. I wish it was more of a drivers car though. Not bad, just not what I hoped it would be.
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So, you like the car well enough and the only sampling you had was the version with the smallest, weakest engine and you complain about it being slow??! Maybe try the one with the V6, at 300+ hp it ought to be OK. In either case, hardly a reason to tell GM, FU.
 
Jay Honeck said:
Sweet! How about a PIREP?

I think the Volt is a great idea...that needs to be built by Ford. That said, it's still a great idea for a commuter car.
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It is great idea and everyone I have spoken with (a lot as the Bay Area is full of electric cars as you might imagine) says they deliver as advertised. Electric cars are becoming really common place here, including Teslas.
 
pikespeakmtnman said:
With some cars, it is not about miles per gallon but more about SMILES per gallon
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This is SO true! I'll take smiles per gallon over miles per gallon any day. On the other hand, this is a good reason why we are free to buy second, or third cars!:D
 
Dav8or said:
It is great idea and everyone I have spoken with (a lot as the Bay Area is full of electric cars as you might imagine) says they deliver as advertised. Electric cars are becoming really common place here, including Teslas.
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I know. I tried to buy an electric car last year, for my daughter to use on her 45 mile round trip commute to Texas A&M every day. It would save her over $270/month in gas.

Sadly, Nissan isn't interested in selling their Leaf -- or at least Texas dealers aren't. I didn't want a hybrid (which ruled out Toyota), and I cannot stomach the thought of ever owning a GM car again.

So...I wait patiently for Ford to come out with a plug-in electric car. Sooner or later, they will. It just makes too much sense.
 
This has nothing to do with the subject but yesterday I heard a Nissan dealer's radio ad, talking about the Leaf and electric and on and on...

Then at the end of the commercial they mentioned it came with free oil changes for two years.

:D
 
N801BH said:
2.25 HP from each cubic inch of displacement,, and make it out of a 100,000 mile warranty........ With absolute morons driving it..... Good *ucking luck...
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Well, a modern turbocharged car will have a MAP sensor, O2 sensors, and knock sensors. The engine will automatically run rich, pull back the ignition timing, and open up the wastegate to protect itself from destruction.

My car has 2.08 hp per cubic inch, it's nearly 20 years old, and it has 270k+ on it. It's fine. It also wasn't made by GM.
 
3393RP said:
This has nothing to do with the subject but yesterday I heard a Nissan dealer's radio ad, talking about the Leaf and electric and on and on...

Then at the end of the commercial they mentioned it came with free oil changes for two years.

:D
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

The dealers down here were trying to pawn off two year old Leafs for the same price as new. They simply had zero interest or enthusiasm for the car, for reasons that I cannot fathom. Their whole attitude was "We made that thing to shut California up. Now check out this Altima!"

I drove a Leaf, and liked it a lot.
 
MSPAviator said:
Well, a modern turbocharged car will have a MAP sensor, O2 sensors, and knock sensors. The engine will automatically run rich, pull back the ignition timing, and open up the wastegate to protect itself from destruction.

My car has 2.08 hp per cubic inch, it's nearly 20 years old, and it has 270k+ on it. It's fine. It also wasn't made by GM.
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Thanks for pointing that out.................. My drift is if a auto engine can safely put out 2+ HP per cubic inch then why doesn't Lycoming and Continental engines like the 0-360 make a safe and dependable 720 HP :dunno::dunno:.....
 
N801BH said:
Thanks for pointing that out.................. My drift is if a auto engine can safely put out 2+ HP per cubic inch then why doesn't Lycoming and Continental engines like the 0-360 make a safe and dependable 720 HP :dunno::dunno:.....
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Because the O-360 doesn't rev out to 7000 RPM?
 
Jay Honeck said:
I know. I tried to buy an electric car last year, for my daughter to use on her 45 mile round trip commute to Texas A&M every day. It would save her over $270/month in gas.
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What does a charge cost in your neck of the woods?
The opinions I've heard, from knowledgeable folks without a dog in this fight, say a Hybrid is the way to go until the whole country is making juice and making it available for charging economically. :confused:
 
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Jay Honeck said:
So...I wait patiently for Ford to come out with a plug-in electric car. Sooner or later, they will. It just makes too much sense.
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They have it right now. The C-Max Energi plug in hybrid. Basically a Chevy Volt light. Reported to go about 20 miles all electric. Smaller battery than the Volt, so smaller price tag, but less all electric driving.


http://www.ford.com/cars/cmax/
 
JGoodish said:
The Japanese are still king when it comes to building an enduring vehicle that people actually want to buy, and I'm not necessarily a fan of Japanese auto manufacturers.
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Nope. The South Koreans have been taking that away from the Japanese. Edmonston (of the Lemon Aid book) says that Hyundais are better cars than anything the Japanese are producing. We've had a '06 Sonata for nearly four years and it's been a delight to own and drive. Has a 3.3L V6 that makes 247 hp.

Dan
 
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