Looks like they lost all comms (voice and radar) to/from the displaced EWR guys down in Philly. Ground stops for the above airports. LGA also backing up. This is also going to exacerbate the delays already at EWR due to the runway construction.
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How many times has this happened since ATC for that area moved to Philly? 3-5?
Ground stop now lifted but there are nearly four hour delays going in to EWR.
Of course soon they'll centralize all ATC functions in LockMart's facility in Denver and we everything will work perfectly.
Of course soon they'll centralize all ATC functions in LockMart's facility in Denver and we everything will work perfectly.
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Rachel Maddow’s show last night began with a look at this and the overall state of ATC and the FAA right now.
I think she overemphasized the number of accidents and incidents recently, lumping GA accidents in with 121 accidents and incidents - unfortunately GA accidents are a nearly a daily occurrence and I’m not sure there’s been a recent uptick. I don’t think there has been. And I think she overly emphasized the political aspect, when to date I don’t think a proximate cause of recent accidents and incidents can necessarily be linked to the administration’s actions or lack thereof. I still think it’s worth watching, albeit with a highly skeptical eye.
Still, the situation at Newark is disconcerting.
I think she overemphasized the number of accidents and incidents recently, lumping GA accidents in with 121 accidents and incidents - unfortunately GA accidents are a nearly a daily occurrence and I’m not sure there’s been a recent uptick. I don’t think there has been. And I think she overly emphasized the political aspect, when to date I don’t think a proximate cause of recent accidents and incidents can necessarily be linked to the administration’s actions or lack thereof. I still think it’s worth watching, albeit with a highly skeptical eye.
Still, the situation at Newark is disconcerting.
EWR/LGA/JFK share the same root problem that DCA has. Too much stuff in a five pound sack with more stuff being added.
Unintended consequences eventually bite you and I don’t think we’ve seen that at EWR yet, but it’s certainly getting nipped at.
Looks like it happened again this morning? That's bad enough where I think I'd probably reject a flight to EWR these days.
No idea how you can have minute and a half outages at a bravo airport with fast moving traffic all over and still remain in operation.
Perhaps this is all an elaborate ploy to get people over to LGA to help pay for that expensive airport facelift
No idea how you can have minute and a half outages at a bravo airport with fast moving traffic all over and still remain in operation.
Perhaps this is all an elaborate ploy to get people over to LGA to help pay for that expensive airport facelift
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This one seems to have been early enough in the morning that it didn't have a significant affect on passenger operations.
The real problem today is that the wind is from the northeast requiring runway 4R operations, 4L is closed for a major rebuild, and preventing the use of runway 29 for landing. A single-runway operation can not support anywhere close to the traffic that is scheduled through EWR.
Though that's probably more just lucky happen stance that anything else, right?
No telling if the next outage will be during a major period of traffic flow.
Good to know on the runway limitations they've got.
