Educate me on why this plane has not sold
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Hmm, a lot of airplanes flying with radios from before the Clinton era. I still have one of the original Kings from 1986 in my plane. It works fine. Along with the 1986 autopilot.
The only big red flag is the engine. I would just budget an overhaul.
The only big red flag is the engine. I would just budget an overhaul.
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It's got a nice clean belly. Which sadly is the least distressing pic in the gallery. 
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If a plane has been sitting that long then everything from pulleys, cables, pitot system, fuel tanks, door handle hardware, etc. are suspect. Sitting and non use are more destructive than being used.
Oh my gawd - aren’t Teslas awesome? Quick - let Me go spend over $100k for an iPad on wheels…tell me that I don’t look and feel cool in it…drat! Now everyone wants to make $100k on a new car and truck, not just Tesla…
I saw a single engine trainer, bad paint, run out, needed upholstery for $13k a couple of months ago. A few pulleys and staking a valve, 3 cylinders at 80/80, it made annual just fine. Getting upholstery and paint as we speak.
Staring at a twin for $15k complete but for old, plenty of time left in the engines and props if it wasn’t for age. An upcoming annual, some lipstick and corrosion treatment on that flying potato and she will be ready to teach others how to fly her again…
Another single engine two seat trainer run out for $18k - badly needs paint, run out engine. A narco radio is plenty enough for someone to use to learn to fly her. Some forearm grease on some surface corrosion, ultraleather on some seats on her and some grease and she’ll give someone plenty of good memories learning to fly or just piddle around.
Also a Cherokee for $15k. Needs windows, paint and probably radios. She flies but is out of annual. Not for long.
The Cherokee above at 39k?
Shiny belly only takes a rag to wipe to make it look squeaky in the bottom. It’s overpriced.
A fundamental part of economics is an airplane sells for what someone is willing to pay for it- and sadly pilots have become far too willing to open up their wallets and create demand. Oh look! There goes another Tesla! I’m not cool without one. Drat…
We bought the line that airplanes were multiplying like bunny rabbits during the Obama years and soon would fall out of the sky unless Garmin saved the day by making ADSB mandatory …and Garmin the practical sole supplier of ADSB-in for the vast majority of cockpits, with legions inundating avionics shops happily paying $13k for an IPhone with a navcomm. Pilots are spending $80k on panels to keep up with the joneses. The IFR system hasn’t appreciably changed, the mountains haven’t moved or multiplied , but hey - we al neeeeeeeed new avionics, right? It’s not like foreflight doesn’t supply enough - it’s just so much better to have it in the panel…I just don’t look as cool in my Prius…
Engine overhauls have practically doubled in price in the last five years also. So have aviation paint jobs. What about a baby Tesla? But people will KNoW I was cheap…
Airplane prices are through the roof because people are willing to overpay for each and every part of the supply chain. If we don’t feed the monster….
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I saw a single engine trainer, bad paint, run out, needed upholstery for $13k a couple of months ago. A few pulleys and staking a valve, 3 cylinders at 80/80, it made annual just fine. Getting upholstery and paint as we speak.
Staring at a twin for $15k complete but for old, plenty of time left in the engines and props if it wasn’t for age. An upcoming annual, some lipstick and corrosion treatment on that flying potato and she will be ready to teach others how to fly her again…
Another single engine two seat trainer run out for $18k - badly needs paint, run out engine. A narco radio is plenty enough for someone to use to learn to fly her. Some forearm grease on some surface corrosion, ultraleather on some seats on her and some grease and she’ll give someone plenty of good memories learning to fly or just piddle around.
Also a Cherokee for $15k. Needs windows, paint and probably radios. She flies but is out of annual. Not for long.
The Cherokee above at 39k?
Shiny belly only takes a rag to wipe to make it look squeaky in the bottom. It’s overpriced.
A fundamental part of economics is an airplane sells for what someone is willing to pay for it- and sadly pilots have become far too willing to open up their wallets and create demand. Oh look! There goes another Tesla! I’m not cool without one. Drat…
We bought the line that airplanes were multiplying like bunny rabbits during the Obama years and soon would fall out of the sky unless Garmin saved the day by making ADSB mandatory …and Garmin the practical sole supplier of ADSB-in for the vast majority of cockpits, with legions inundating avionics shops happily paying $13k for an IPhone with a navcomm. Pilots are spending $80k on panels to keep up with the joneses. The IFR system hasn’t appreciably changed, the mountains haven’t moved or multiplied , but hey - we al neeeeeeeed new avionics, right? It’s not like foreflight doesn’t supply enough - it’s just so much better to have it in the panel…I just don’t look as cool in my Prius…
Engine overhauls have practically doubled in price in the last five years also. So have aviation paint jobs. What about a baby Tesla? But people will KNoW I was cheap…
Airplane prices are through the roof because people are willing to overpay for each and every part of the supply chain. If we don’t feed the monster….
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schmookeeg
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I don't think the people buying 100K teslae are the same ones buying your tiedown crust critters.
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“Tie down crust critter” goes into the “book of cool phrases I learned from POA”
FormerHangie
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If that airplane is "Nice Paint and Interior 7/10", I don't want to see what the seller would consider "rough".
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Quite true. We are buying 40K Teslae and getting the tax break.
I bought a Decathlon that sat for 10 years. Flew about 200 hours before it made metal. Just got a call from the engine shop saying my overhaul is done. While I waited out the cylinder shortage last year, I did a bare frame restoration under A&P supervision. Gonna have a brand new cherry airplane for maybe 100K all in.
Plenty of ways to enjoy the fruits of your labor without wasting $$.
For the right person, this aircraft might be a similar opportunity. Hopefully someone brings it back to life. We need 'em all.
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90% of the Tesla’s sold are under 60,000.00. New model about to be announced will be under 30k.
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I noticed on TAP that this plane is now under contract.
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Thats because it's going to be the size of a Geo Metro, but base model priced at $29,999 so they can say it's "under $30K" lol.