Early C182 or something else?

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  1. Johnbo

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    been lurking here for a while trying to define my mission, my needs vs wants and how to best balance all that with a plane purchase.

    I am a low time pilot who will be operating out of a 2500’ grass strip and traveling usually within 400 nautical miles to typical municipal airports (paved and plenty of room) but I don’t want (not need) to be limited to large fields. I fancy getting skilled enough to get into smaller places but I don’t need a super cub.

    I have a family so 4-seats is a must. I think an early, lightweight 182 could be fun to fly locally and still get us all wherever we need for weekend trips, $100 burgers etc.

    The downsides that I can see with the 182 are draggy airframe, associated fuel cost & low TBO on the o-470.

    Is the attitude of “get a 182, it will do most things good enough” likely the right one for me at this point or should I look more for dedicated X/C machines like Mooney, Bonanza, ???
     
  2. Mtns2Skies

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    Early 182's are a FANTASTIC value. The nice thing about 182's is you can make it into what you want for not that much money. If you want it to go faster, get gap seals and wheelpants. If you want a STOL plane, put on a Sportsman STOL kit. Not only are 182's good at everything, they can even be made into just about anything fantastic.

    BUT if you want a go fast XC machine, well that's something you have to answer for yourself. Those planes are really only good at one things though and will only ever be good at XC's.
     
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    Thought about a 182RG? Great value, far fewer gear problems than 210s and 172RGs, fast and still awesome short field performers.
     
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    If I didn't have to like taildraggers so darn much, I'd definitely own a 182RG. I can't think of a more versatile plane.

    But if the OP is thinking about early 182's, a 182RG may be out of budget.
     
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    How frequently will you be doing 400nm trips with 4 up?
     
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    True, though the 182RGs tend to be undervalued. Almost as undervalued as newer model (mid-70s and up) 182 straight legs tend to be overvalued. They also tend to require a lot less panel work than some of the geriatric 182s out there, which could eat up a lot of the difference.

    The 182RG, 310 and 441 (if I could afford one) are the only Cessnas I'd consider owning, and that includes their jets (if I could ever afford them) and the 210.
     
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    Maybe 3-4 times / year. but 1-up maybe another 10-12 times / year. I don’t have the option of owning two planes so I’ve got to get the one that won’t leave anyone home except for by choice. Renting is also out as that will kill the freedom of flying on my schedule.
     
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    The UL on a 182 will help. The UL+speed on a 182RG will help even more.
     
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    So, not so frequently that the speed difference matters much.
     
  10. Tom-D

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    Piper Dakota 235, brick dependable O-540, carb'ed, fixed gear (strong) plenty horse power for 4 and bags.
    They'll do 400 miles before breakfast.
    They'll not win any short field contest, but 2500 feet should be no problem.
     
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    The Op didn't list an aversion to tailwheel so aren't the Cessna 180/185 and maybe a Maule also candidates?
     
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    I'm sure the 180/185 would do the job OK, not so sure about the Maule.
     
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    I’m not against a tailwheel but the insurance companies are against me with a 4-place taildragger so for now I am going to focus on the trikes
     
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    NP.

    We have a 182, great family plane. You can always dial it back to save some $$$ when not in a hurry.

    Have you ever all flown together?
     
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    Yeah, a Dakota for a reasonable price might be even a better hauler than a 182. Not the best short field, but they aren't a runway hog either.
     
  16. Tom-D

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    2500 feet should be plenty for a pilot with a handle on a Dakota. and they will do the load.

    I'm impressed with the Dakota. 0-540 big 6 at 235 horses will run for ever, this is the basic engine for the TSIO-540.
     
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    What field altitudes are we talking about? If high, you may want a turbo.
     
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    Get a 182 with a Pponk STC (265+ HP) and you'll have the option of a little extra speed in exchange for avga$, and you won't have to worry about filling the plane at higher temps.
    14+ year owner of a 182. The saying is true, it does nothing great, but everything well.
     
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    Bellanca Superviking! I live on a 2500’ grass strip! They are fast and very capable planes.


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