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Touchdown! Greaser!
Just tell them how hard life was when you were a kid. That always makes them yawn.+1 yawning...if you can get a young child to do it.
Just tell them how hard life was when you were a kid. That always makes them yawn.+1 yawning...if you can get a young child to do it.
I'll drink to that!I think the real takeaway here is, "don't have kids."
When children are that age, their eustachian tubes are more vertical than those of an adult. This results in more ear infections.
I am glad she got past it as she did.
That avatar picture was hard to make out, so I had to enlarge it:
IIRC from my Air Force altitude chamber rides, the pressure changes from 5K to the ground are the worst. Afrin squirts before the descent can help assuming the Afrin is given enough time. Don't want to use it before takeoff, though--it's there to get you down, not to get you in the air.
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Took our first family flight in the new plane yesterday and It couldn't have been more perfect.
Until we started our descent back home
It was night, ATC was busy, There was a 150 hobbling back on one magnito and my little girl starts screaming. I mean she was in major pain.
I am struggling to not be a dad at this point and just be PIC (That is hard) I wanted to climb back up, hold her hand, and tell her sweet things but I hit the iso switch to put her on ignore.
I could hear her screaming still just in the plane as we got lower and lower on final. You just want to reach back and hold their hand or something.
She is at this point too young to understand a valasalva. We tried but she just held her nose and blew air out her mouth (which was funny. I mean "hold your nose and blow"... She did.) We gave her gum thinking swallowing would help but no dice there.
I know she was having sinus issues earlier in the day but it has been years since I have had that experience. I recall having major ear pain as a kid but that was on SWA so we are talking what 8k feet pressurized?
Last night we were 5500 descending to ~1000 field elevation. She is not a drama queen so I know she must have really been hurting.
Any tips for little ears on planes?
On the flight out she slept so it was pleasant. Gave big brother a chance to have some fun w/ the selfie too.
Yeah, that was kind of my reaction too... my posted response was a little more muted, maybe too muted.Oh holy **** please don't tell me you are serious. Climb 500' as fast as you can at that pain level and keep climbing at Vy till the pain goes away, then limit descent to 200fpm and hold if required to allow to clear.
If she can't equalize the pressure at all, does descending more slowly actually do much for her? Wouldn't the pressure still build? Honest question.
lighten up Francisco....do you really think he meant harm to his daughter?
Yep. That is almost exactly what I was going to say. Only bingo fuel would have intervened.Oh holy **** please don't tell me you are serious. Climb 500' as fast as you can at that pain level and keep climbing at Vy till the pain goes away, then limit descent to 200fpm and hold if required to allow to clear.
Get a tub of Vick's to keep in the plane.
If I had been your daughter I would have been strangling you with your headset cord if you did that to me, seriously, I would have killed you and took it up from the back seat, that is a ****ed up thing to do to someone.
ATC is never a problem, tell them you have someone with ear problems and they will let you do whatever you need.
That's a lot of flak for something I didn't know. Hence posing the thread as a question inferring I was unsure what to do.
EdFred, thinks for the Get out of Jail free card but I don't need it.
Henning, If I recall, you don't have children, and you certainly don't have mine.
Whether I made a good call or a bad call, doesn't matter at this point. What matters is I know how to handle it next time. And of course I explained to her what the pain was after and explained that next time we fly we will have her do some of the same self checks that daddy does. I also stated that if they don't want to fly, they don't have to. Neither of them have ever been particularly fond of it. No fear, just that they both find it boring.
Anything you think I should have done or need to do to make it it right, "square it away", etc between me and my daughter is moot as it not your field of expertise.
I am sure you raised orphans in Guyana and have nieces that call you pops and you may have a whole village of pigmeys you saved from devastation and raised as your own. And while I really do appreciate the piloting advice and I will certainly take it to heart, you know what you can do with the parenting advice.
You can't scratch the surface of all the things I do to make it right with my daughter after I caused her pain.
NONE of it has anything to do with whether or not she is a reluctant flyer in the future either. That part isn't about flying.
And for the record, I doubt this was my worst mistake as a pilot.
You owe her an apology and a promise to never do it agin.
You need to square it away with her
he did it by consciously denying his instincts and conscience, that makes it worse! ...what he did is inexcusable and he needs to make it right with his daughter
it is a big **** up not only as a parent but as a pilot
very likely the biggest he has made as a parent and pilot to date.
Uh, I missed that post.This is parenting advice and what got my panties in a wad
As if piloting trumps parenting ...
^ That's some serious s**t right there from someone with no kids (or even someone w/ kids).
It's out of line. period.
This is parenting advice and what got my panties in a wad
As if piloting trumps parenting ...
^ That's some serious s**t right there from someone with no kids (or even someone w/ kids).
It's out of line. period.
This is parenting advice and what got my panties in a wad
As if piloting trumps parenting ...
^ That's some serious s**t right there from someone with no kids (or even someone w/ kids).
It's out of line. period.
6PC, I'm taking your side on this. As a flying family also, we know that you can take your kids up 1000 times without problem and then that one flight happens where one has a bad experience. You can't predict that. **** happens. These pilots who are jacking you around are the same ones who also say they'll never have any type of incident flying because they _____.
We always pack some bottled water and gum. Those two things help greatly.
We were once on a commercial flight once where my daughter was in tears crying from the pain. She was really hurting bad. She never wanted to fly again. I suppose that pilot should have apologized and "made it right" with her, as well.
Really?
Huh, wonder what happened?
I'm amazed it took this long. He was an obvious troll.
Since you're young I'll give you a piece of advice; when you limit thinking, you limit opportunity. Your attitude does not serve you well, and the way you project yourself is probably why you can't get a job. You don't even know me, and you believe you have earned the right to insult me. **** you you little inbred ****.
Are you really just that stupid? Seriously? Holy ****, and they gave you a pilot's license? **** me dead.
Gon**** yourself you retarded ****.