Debriefing App for Independent CFIs

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This new app is free for Independent CFIs and is ready for beta testing - runs on iPads and tablets.

It's a significant upgrade for how you handle lesson debriefs today. And has some other cool features such as a lesson booking calendar and custom syllabus importing.

NextRating

Message me for an account, and you'll have have a say in the release 1 feature set.
 
Someone asked: can this be used only for the lesson booking calendar without using it to debrief lessons?
Answer is yes, you actually can use it that way if you're not ready to use your tablet for debriefing sessions.
 
Foreflight is mentioned a few times, does the CFI and/or student have to be using foreflight?
 
Is this primarily geared toward certificate/rating training or are there tools for transitions, avionics-specific, flight reviews, IPCs, and other post-certification training? I’d be curious to see it if the latter.
 
farangutan said:
Foreflight is mentioned a few times, does the CFI and/or student have to be using foreflight?
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No, there is no integration or dependence on ForeFlight. ForeFlight is mentioned to point out that NextRating does not do what ForeFlight does, and ForeFlight does not do what NextRating does.
 
midlifeflyer said:
Is this primarily geared toward certificate/rating training or are there tools for transitions, avionics-specific, flight reviews, IPCs, and other post-certification training? I’d be curious to see it if the latter.
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The image shows the expanded Post-Certification Training subset of the syllabus hierarchy that is built in to the app. And of course we'll be revising/extending this based on feedback. At this time there are no built-in and public syllabus for these sections - some do exist that were privately imported but those are only exposed to their owners. NextRating includes tools for importing and using your private syllabus for any section of the syllabus hierarchy. Any syllabus you import can be used by the students you're working with. If you point us to a public domain or permission granted syllabus for one of these sections we'd be happy to import it and make it built-in and available to all users.

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wwjenkins said:
This new app is free for Independent CFIs and is ready for beta testing - runs on iPads and tablets.

It's a significant upgrade for how you handle lesson debriefs today. And has some other cool features such as a lesson booking calendar and custom syllabus importing.

NextRating

Message me for an account, and you'll have have a say in the release 1 feature set.
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I like the idea, as long as some customization is possible.
 
sarangan said:
I like the idea, as long as some customization is possible.
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Thanks - you can import into it a syllabus of your choice. And we're open to hearing your ideas for other ways to provide customization!
 
How does this compare to cloud ahoy? It's been around a while and has not been well adapted/utilized.


I don't think putting energies into such a product is worth the time unless a stepping stone to bigger and better.

Hire a tuber to put up a pseudo marketing vid or do one yourself.
 
4RNB said:
How does this compare to cloud ahoy? It's been around a while and has not been well adapted/utilized.


I don't think putting energies into such a product is worth the time unless a stepping stone to bigger and better.

Hire a tuber to put up a pseudo marketing vid or do one yourself.
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I have to say I love this question! I don't think you're one of our beta testers so that will guide my response.

NextRating is not integrated with FF and does not analyze a tracklog as part of its role in the debrief. The debrief features of NextRatiing are intended in part to help the CFI's debrief succeed in its thoroughness and in its learning impact and retention by the pilot.

If I re-phrase your question to be "How does the CFI's debrief session with the pilot in training compare with just having the pilot go use CloudAhoy?" then for me the answer is pretty clear. I often use the tracklog debrief feature in FF on the web, because I think it's pretty cool. It has not come close to achieving the level of learning that a CFI provides. For example, the CFI's debrief can walk me through how I used throttle and flight controls in the pattern and final approach. He can point out what I did or didn't do with the rudder when I started the turn to final, saw I was low and added power. He can point out what I had done that caused me to be low. He can remind me how stalls happen on the base to final turn. The EFB debrief tools simply cannot do that. The example I just gave was a real case, and the tracklog debrief in FF scored that pattern and approach as a 95, implying I had no room for improvement.

My thinking is we need more CFIs doing more good debriefs, and we need the pilots in training to be reviewing those insights again at home, doing some chair flying or whatever. We do not want CFIs heading toward letting CloudAhoy automate that part of the job.

Regarding your suggestion about needing videos. Totally agree, that needs to come. For now the app is still being formulated, first by the developers and now also by the beta testers.

I hope you'll consider signing up and giving us more good input.
 
wwjenkins said:
I have to say I love this question! I don't think you're one of our beta testers so that will guide my response.

NextRating is not integrated with FF and does not analyze a tracklog as part of its role in the debrief. The debrief features of NextRatiing are intended in part to help the CFI's debrief succeed in its thoroughness and in its learning impact and retention by the pilot.

If I re-phrase your question to be "How does the CFI's debrief session with the pilot in training compare with just having the pilot go use CloudAhoy?" then for me the answer is pretty clear. I often use the tracklog debrief feature in FF on the web, because I think it's pretty cool. It has not come close to achieving the level of learning that a CFI provides. For example, the CFI's debrief can walk me through how I used throttle and flight controls in the pattern and final approach. He can point out what I did or didn't do with the rudder when I started the turn to final, saw I was low and added power. He can point out what I had done that caused me to be low. He can remind me how stalls happen on the base to final turn. The EFB debrief tools simply cannot do that. The example I just gave was a real case, and the tracklog debrief in FF scored that pattern and approach as a 95, implying I had no room for improvement.

My thinking is we need more CFIs doing more good debriefs, and we need the pilots in training to be reviewing those insights again at home, doing some chair flying or whatever. We do not want CFIs heading toward letting CloudAhoy automate that part of the job.

Regarding your suggestion about needing videos. Totally agree, that needs to come. For now the app is still being formulated, first by the developers and now also by the beta testers.

I hope you'll consider signing up and giving us more good input.
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I debriefed with Cloud Ahoy prior to its becoming part of the juggernaut.
It was a great product with incredible data, objective.
It scored my instrument approaches.
I dont know what you are talking about otherwise.


Put a video up showing what you talk about.
I'm not going to go trial anything otherwise.

Folks come here once a week to shill some new thang!
 
Tarheelpilot said:
Why not just put notes on a knee board?
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Interesting point. I've had some instructors that do that, but most seem to commit things to memory for recall later. NextRating can work with either of those approaches, and some instructors may even use it during the flight to take notes. In any case we think the value of NextRating comes afterwards, during the debrief when the CFI can step through the items in the syllabus that were covered during the flight, score them and save notes that are specific to what the pilot being trained needs to work on.
 
There are no videos demonstrating the product on your site.
When I search for "Nextrating pilot app" none of the top hit videos are yours, but sure are other apps.
 
4RNB said:
I debriefed with Cloud Ahoy prior to its becoming part of the juggernaut.
It was a great product with incredible data, objective.
It scored my instrument approaches.
I dont know what you are talking about otherwise.


Put a video up showing what you talk about.
I'm not going to go trial anything otherwise.

Folks come here once a week to shill some new thang!
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OK appreciate your point.

It's not a "new thang" yet. We're here seeking input - what would make the CFI & Student process go better? We'll make refinements accordingly, then the time for videos will come.
 
4RNB said:
There are no videos demonstrating the product on your site.
When I search for "Nextrating pilot app" none of the top hit videos are yours, but sure are other apps.
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Yes, just to clarify - NextRating is in beta right now. We won't be doing videos until we've learned what our users have to teach us.
 
wwjenkins said:
Yes, just to clarify - NextRating is in beta right now. We won't be doing videos until we've learned what our users have to teach us.
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It doesn’t say that on your site.
The site where you collect money from people.
 
4RNB said:
It doesn’t say that on your site.
The site where you collect money from people.
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That's good input - we'll clarify that on the website. If you hit the signup button you will see that signups are not open right now. And to clarify for other readers - the "collect money" is for the special case of flight school operators with multiple instructors, and for other users who want to unlock the ability to import their private syllabus (any number). Beta users are being comp'd in so they get that free.

Otherwise NextRating is free for independent instructors and pilots.
 
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