Communicating ICAO Equipment Codes to ATC

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  1. Palmpilot

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    When calling ATC for flight following, practice approaches, etc., they used to want to know whether we were /A, /G, or whatever. Now that domestic flight plan forms are going away, how should pilots convey this information? The ICAO equipment codes seem like they might be kind of cumbersome for this purpose.
     
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    You say /A or /G or whatever. The controllers don't see all the lovely ICAO codes. Their computer maps them into the traditional ones.
     
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    I’m surprised they cared even before. Equipment codes are irrelevant for VFR flight. I don’t tecall ever giving it or being asked to.
     
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    Whatever program you use to file, should have a suffix box allowing you to select the appropriate equipment. If ATC asks, then simply tell them. It’s pronounced “slant alpha, slant uniform” etc., at least that’s how I’ve always said it.
     
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    How about when requesting a popup IFR clearance? I'm sure I've been asked when doing that.
     
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    Are those valid choices on an ICAO flight plan?
     
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    Same
     
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    Sure. Once IFR, it becomes relevant, although I haven’t been asked that.
     
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    IIRC yes, I usually file my plans through FSS so I just verbally tell them.
     
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    By the way, the scenario I mentioned is just an example. In the decommissioned VOR thread, Nate mentioned frequently having to tell ATC that he isn't equipped for some of the direct clearances that he receives while IFR.
     
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    Almost positive the computer "FIDO" requires an equipment suffix or it won't spit out a code for VFRs. We used to just put /U if the pilot didn't provide it.
     
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    If the flight is entered into the Flight Data Processing computer an equipment suffix indicating a transponder must be entered or the computer will not assign a beacon code. If the pilot didn't state the code I just entered /U.