Commercial Checkride

[Jimjon]

Close to commercial checkride. My 182 still has the 6 pack so I got my 10 hours TAA time in a friend's aircraft....but someone said the checkride must also be in a TAA aircraft. Anybody know if that's accurate? Thanks in advance.

 

[ColinD]

That is no longer the case. Your 6-pack 182 is fine for the checkride.

Those 10 hours of TAA time were dual received, right?

 

[Jimjon]

Yes dual with a CFII. Do you by chance have a link to the info so I can show a nay-sayer? I love being able to prove things to him...lol.
Thanks for your reply! Jim

 

[RyanB]

The check ride does NOT have to be in a TAA aircraft.

 

[ColinD]

Yes dual with a CFII. Do you by chance have a link to the info so I can show a nay-sayer? I love being able to prove things to him...lol.
Thanks for your reply! Jim

Review page 77 of the Commercial ACS and the regulation it references, 14 CFR 61.45.

 

[ateamer]

If you’re close to the commercial checkride - which is probably your third checkride - you should read the entire ACS and have no doubt about the requirements. You need to have a professional pilot’s knowledge and ability to read, understand and apply regulations.

 

[Lindberg]

Yes dual with a CFII. Do you by chance have a link to the info so I can show a nay-sayer? I love being able to prove things to him...lol.
Thanks for your reply! Jim

Requirements are documented. Non-requirements are not documented. Ask your friend to show you the requirement that the check ride be in a TAA.

 

[Jim_CAK]

If you’re close to the commercial checkride - which is probably your third checkride - you should read the entire ACS and have no doubt about the requirements. You need to have a professional pilot’s knowledge and ability to read, understand and apply regulations.

This is true - it is the reality I had to face 5 or 6 years ago when I did my commercial. I had been flying for 20 years but never spent any time looking at the regulations. Your examiner will not expect you to have everything memorized, but if you know how and where to look things up, you will get through it. As a CFI, a common complaint I hear from examiners is they get private / instrument candidates who have never even seen the ACS. The good news is the more you look up regulatory questions, the easier it gets. Good luck with your training.

 

[billsgs126]

Close to commercial checkride. My 182 still has the 6 pack so I got my 10 hours TAA time in a friend's aircraft....but someone said the checkride must also be in a TAA aircraft. Anybody know if that's accurate? Thanks in advance.

No.

Somebody thought Nobody could do it, but Nobody realized that Anybody could do it. So, it ended up that Nobody did. Then Everybody blamed Somebody because Nobody did what Anybody could have.

Don't listen to Somebody.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Yes dual with a CFII. Do you by chance have a link to the info so I can show a nay-sayer? I love being able to prove things to him...lol.
Thanks for your reply! Jim

Like @Lindberg, I would do the opposite. I would ask the instructor to show me where the regs or ACS say you have to take the checkride in a TAA.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Just a thought on where that CFI is coming from.

Once upon a time, before the TAA option was added, 61.129(a) required 10 hours in a complex (or turbine) airplane. And the PTS had a specifically-stated requirement to use a complex airplane for the landing tasks. That requirement was removed and was not added back in when TAAs were added as an option.

The removal of the checkride requirement was back in 2018.

So, we may simply be dealing with a CFI who hasn’t worked with a commercial applicant for more than 7 years and hasn’t kept up and is still thinking in terms of required for the rating = required for the checkride.

 

[Mikey52]

Even back in 78, you could do about %90 of the check ride in a non complex aircraft, then jump in a complex for a trip or 2 around the pattern to finish up.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Even back in 78, you could do about %90 of the check ride in a non complex aircraft, then jump in a complex for a trip or 2 around the pattern to finish up.

Right. The only reason a complex aircraft was required at all was because the landing task required one and 61.45(b) says in part:

(b) Required equipment (other than controls).​

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (b)(2) of this section, an aircraft used for a practical test must have -​

(i) The equipment for each area of operation required for the practical test;​

I don't know how far that language goes back, but here's the 1973 version: