austinglasair
Pre-Flight
I can't let this one go..
What: Doing a maintenance test flight on one of the aircraft in my unit with pressurization issues. We took off and climbed to 16k' initially followed by 20k after a few checks.
Where: Korea
Who: A C-130 pilot, Incheon center, and my crew (I won't reveal so easily what I was flying
Just monitoring the frequency along my route I hear a US Air Force C-130 checking in.
Incheon Center: "xx23 say time of arrival at Osan"
C-130: "0055 zulu Sir,"
Center: "Unable to proceed, hold at MAKSA on 090 radial. Twenty mile leg."
C-130: "Sir, is there is a reason why we cannot proceed to Osan?"
Center: "Due to TPA (temporary prohibited area) ending 0053z"
C-130: "Sir, that was not published anywhere, can I proceed to Osan and hold"
Center: "I do not understand your question. Hold at MAKSA on 090 radial. Twenty mile legs."
I understand this Air Force pilot's frustration so I politely ask center to borrow the freq: "xx23.. come up fingers"
(tunes 123.45)
Me: "Hey, we didn't know about this TPA either, it wasn't published on the NOTAMS or AIRADS. Our operations also wasn't tracking the closure. We look like we'll be holding too"
C-130 pilot: "We weren't tracking it either, this guy is making me hold on the other side of the country. We have no idea what's going on with this."
Me: "Welcome to Korea.. the struggle is real brother."
I felt like we had a moment with my fellow US pilot as we were both in similar circumstances and struggles that we face flying overseas.
(Incheon center chimes in)
Incheon: "xxx 23 I said hold on 090 radial inbound. Right turn! Right turn. I say right turn!"
C-130: "Sir.. we're turning right.. you said 090 inbound and now we're turning right to 270 outbound. I don't understand." the C-130 was actually correct. I was actually watching him on TCAS as he was stacked below me.
OOoook this is where it gets interesting:
The C-130 pilot mistakenly left his radio selector up with Incheon center thinking he had swapped to the protection and "privacy" of talking to me on fingers. He was wrong.... What's next will shock you.
(C-130 pilot transmitting on Incheon Center)
"This idiot is really starting to pi$$ me off! He issued me some ridiculous holding procedure that I'm executing and still doesn't like it? Go back to school." (add two expletives that I will omit).
My copilot and I looked at each other in disbelief as we had realized what he had done before he did. He transmitted to Incheon and not to us that is.
(Me on fingers to C-130 pilot)
"I think you said that on the wrong frequency.. we tried our best to block your transmission but a few things still got out."
(20 solid seconds of silence on the radio)
Incheon center: "xxx 23 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME?"
C-130 pilot: "No Sir, we'll continue to hold. There's no problem."
What: Doing a maintenance test flight on one of the aircraft in my unit with pressurization issues. We took off and climbed to 16k' initially followed by 20k after a few checks.
Where: Korea
Who: A C-130 pilot, Incheon center, and my crew (I won't reveal so easily what I was flying
Just monitoring the frequency along my route I hear a US Air Force C-130 checking in.
Incheon Center: "xx23 say time of arrival at Osan"
C-130: "0055 zulu Sir,"
Center: "Unable to proceed, hold at MAKSA on 090 radial. Twenty mile leg."
C-130: "Sir, is there is a reason why we cannot proceed to Osan?"
Center: "Due to TPA (temporary prohibited area) ending 0053z"
C-130: "Sir, that was not published anywhere, can I proceed to Osan and hold"
Center: "I do not understand your question. Hold at MAKSA on 090 radial. Twenty mile legs."
I understand this Air Force pilot's frustration so I politely ask center to borrow the freq: "xx23.. come up fingers"
(tunes 123.45)
Me: "Hey, we didn't know about this TPA either, it wasn't published on the NOTAMS or AIRADS. Our operations also wasn't tracking the closure. We look like we'll be holding too"
C-130 pilot: "We weren't tracking it either, this guy is making me hold on the other side of the country. We have no idea what's going on with this."
Me: "Welcome to Korea.. the struggle is real brother."
I felt like we had a moment with my fellow US pilot as we were both in similar circumstances and struggles that we face flying overseas.
(Incheon center chimes in)
Incheon: "xxx 23 I said hold on 090 radial inbound. Right turn! Right turn. I say right turn!"
C-130: "Sir.. we're turning right.. you said 090 inbound and now we're turning right to 270 outbound. I don't understand." the C-130 was actually correct. I was actually watching him on TCAS as he was stacked below me.
OOoook this is where it gets interesting:
The C-130 pilot mistakenly left his radio selector up with Incheon center thinking he had swapped to the protection and "privacy" of talking to me on fingers. He was wrong.... What's next will shock you.
(C-130 pilot transmitting on Incheon Center)
"This idiot is really starting to pi$$ me off! He issued me some ridiculous holding procedure that I'm executing and still doesn't like it? Go back to school." (add two expletives that I will omit).
My copilot and I looked at each other in disbelief as we had realized what he had done before he did. He transmitted to Incheon and not to us that is.
(Me on fingers to C-130 pilot)
"I think you said that on the wrong frequency.. we tried our best to block your transmission but a few things still got out."
(20 solid seconds of silence on the radio)
Incheon center: "xxx 23 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME?"
C-130 pilot: "No Sir, we'll continue to hold. There's no problem."
